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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged change the game

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game changer i occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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for the

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how you doing today is monday july 5th

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187 days into the new year only 178 days

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we are live from a bunker

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a bunker somewhere in the middle of

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nowhere a total

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that's right i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg r a the planets

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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i hope everybody had a great fun and

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safe

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and uh but i will be hanging out on

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and i'm gonna be posting what i can i'm

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gonna sneak some pics in

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we got a great cast and uh a great

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collection of people that are getting

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you know from the film company but you

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a week from today next monday

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for a fresh brand new week of fade to

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black so don't worry

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about that and uh it's gonna be great

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tonight on the show

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been waiting for this christina gomez of

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the debrief joins us for the first time

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um kgra is going to be playing

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uh replays but uh everything else

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on july 5th july 17th

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we are having an extraordinary event

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that is our forbidden disclosure online

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richard dolan linda molten howe lou

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elizando nick pope billy carson and

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this is an 11 hour all day live

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event tickets are available the info

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description box below if you're over

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so go and get your tickets now all right

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at jaychurchradio that's what you want

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deleting spam accounts

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just i just got the email right before

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the show tonight and uh i can't wait for

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the sandboxes hashtag f2b on twitter i

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is the sandbox and there you go let's

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sad news today richard donner the

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superman the omen the goonies scrooged

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conspiracy theory and lethal weapon

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has died he died today he was

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many many many many years ago it was

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some of his gear but i actually talked

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or something like that but he passed

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this is insane this story broke today

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cyber security teams are working

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stem the impact of the single biggest

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global ransomware attack on record

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with some details emerging about how the

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are evil breached cassaya

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whose software was the conduit now our

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evil infected thousands of victims

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late sunday our evil offered a posting

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a universal decrypter software key that

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would unscramble all

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70 million dollars in cryptocurrency

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absolutely incredible well this story

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broke over the weekend it is july 4th

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to win his 14th title at the annual 4th

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of july contest sponsored by

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nathan's normally held at the eatery's

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location on coney island this year's

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oh my god jeff bezos has officially

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retailing biomoth that made him the

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transition went into effect today having

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cloud computing business taking over as

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well this is crazy news researchers

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at the uk's university of oxford have

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administered the first doses of a

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as part of a phase 1 clinical trial

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today the trial called hiv

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core 0052 aims to evaluate the safety of

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the project is part of the european aids

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insane now finally on this

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5th of july i'm going to leave you with

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because yesterday senator ted cruz

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you ready at ted cruz you can see it for

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quote on this 4th of july

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we reflect on the incredible spirit of

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american patriots

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whether it's standing up to redcoats or

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nazis

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or even space aliens

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americans never surrender stop fighting

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for

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freedom happy independence day and

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in his tweet he's got the little alien

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heads

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pretty trippy let's get to show crack

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and happy birthday to

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today the one and only edie

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falco today is 58

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huey lewis i can't even believe i'm

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about to say what i'm about to say

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is 71. my old friend i produced a bunch

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of stuff for him

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uh back man i'm going to say late 80s

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michael

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monarch of steppenwolf today is

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71. jimmy crespo former

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aerosmith guitarist today is 67

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and robbie robertson of the band

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is 78.

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1970 to 2004 died at the age of 34.

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mack was a rapper hip hop pioneer and a

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record producer based in vallejo

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california

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he was an instrumental figure in the

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emergence of the bay area hip-hop scene

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in the early 2000s

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as the founder of this entertainment he

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recorded dozens of albums and gave

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aspiring rappers an outlet to release

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albums locally

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well on november 1st 2004 matt ray was

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killed by an

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under a performance in kansas city

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missouri a case

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that remains unsolved happy birthday mac

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dre on this day in history

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1996 dolly the sheep

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becomes the first successfully cloned

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mammal i thought that happened in the

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70s that's like a

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a mandela effect 1996 i could have

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sworn i was in like

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1976 but there you go

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fader fact peanuts

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walnuts almonds cashews

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and pistachios are not

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nuts they are classified

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as seeds and that

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is your fader fact tonight very special

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guest christina gomez of the debrief

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joins us for the very first time and i

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do want to remind everybody

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i will be on location for the rest of

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the week shooting a new film

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and i will be hanging out in social

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media so i'm not going to be

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completely gone all right but i will be

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back a week from today

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with a fresh a brand new fresh

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week of fade to black right now let me

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hit this river moon coffee did you see

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rivermoonwellness.com all the links are

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over at jimmy church radio

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just head straight over best coffee in

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the world

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the links are there visit our amazon

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store game changer blend

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fade to black blend if you want to taste

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what i'm tasting go get yourself some

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you see that bigfoot video i posted

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today i got that video

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from a friend of mine uh that i've known

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for oh geez

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that long uh 35 40 years uh rom

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lovin and uh

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and so i watched the video

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and i was like huh

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what did we do with this well okay

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i hadn't seen the video before i know

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that

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nobody in our community

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had seen it before so i decided to post

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it on

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on twitter just to get everybody's

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reaction so if you haven't seen this

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bigfoot video

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yet and uh it's pretty interesting i'm

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just saying i'm just saying just go

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check it out

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it's uh up in my twitter feed and i

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would love everybody's comments

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and i i uh i tagged

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i tagged uh awakening man in this and he

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waited

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all day uh to check twitter

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and uh there you go so he finally chimed

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in he's our

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our resident bigfoot expert so

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we'll see what awakening man has to say

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about this video but i want everybody to

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go and check it out

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i want you to kick back kick back for a

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because

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i got something to say earlier today

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i was uh driving on the freeway had some

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stuff to do

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uh before my trip tomorrow

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and uh had to go do some stuff and i did

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so i'm driving on the freeway

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and uh listening to a a classic rock

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station and breakfast in america

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by super came on the radio

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and it's amazing how

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music you know music from your past

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can stir up memories right

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and breakfast in america always takes me

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back to one place

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my drafting class in the walker career

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center

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at warren central high school in

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indianapolis

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and the year was 1980 all right we're in

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2021 so this is 41 years ago

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and uh the reason

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for this direct download to my drafting

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table

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every time i hear the song is because of

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my teacher

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mr diamond hayes

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now on my first day of my senior year

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i had mr hayes for first period

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and so i'm there excited right

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first day first day of the you know

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my senior year in high school and

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as he introduced himself to the class

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he said this and i quote he said

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every day we will listen to

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music in my class i will play my

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favorite jazz albums

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and we'll also listen to q95

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her rock station and i was like wow

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wow this dude is cool this dude is

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really cool

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all right i'm in and

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there you go but my second period class

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was right next door and my second period

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class was

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architectural drafting and

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uh that teacher whose name i don't

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remember

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um just bugged me

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he just bugged me with his first words

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and and i was like wait a minute wait a

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minute

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i'm not gonna dig this and and i raised

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my hand

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all right i'm like this and i'm talking

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about like two minutes

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into the class and uh

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raising my hand and uh he called on me

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and i said um can i go ask mr hayes a

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question

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i'll be right back and he's like yeah go

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ahead

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so so i get up i walk next door

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into uh to mr hayes

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can i please take a second class with

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you

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and he looked at me he had these glasses

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you know in this beard you know and he

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looked at me and he looks through the

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glass

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at the teacher in the next room

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and uh and he goes

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sure and he and he

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takes out a pad and he writes me a pass

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to the office and he writes a note on it

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right and says something and he tears it

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off and goes go make the change

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so i ended up taking

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three classes with diamond haze

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the first two periods in the morning

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and i went back and got a free period

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that i had it was senior year

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and i took a third class for him right

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after lunch

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everything that diamond hayes taught me

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i was on my own program and it was

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glorious

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and and he really really

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really made sure that

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he was going to teach it was glorious it

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was absolutely glorious

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not only did he teach me how to draw

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he taught me about jazz

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his record collection was insane and he

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would come in and he would

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take out this thing uh you know a wreck

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he would explain to everybody who was on

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the album and why this thing was special

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00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:18,799
he dropped that needle and and and play

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uh

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but it was also q95

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playing in the background as i drew you

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know when it was super and it was

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real speed wagon and hard and led

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zeppelin bob seger you know that whole

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indianapolis thing but yeah every time i

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hear

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supertramp today i'm right there with

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diamond haze

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he kept the pressure on me

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you know and he let me know that i was

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way ahead of

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of a college class

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and our friendship was as solid as any

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teacher

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00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:01,120
student thing could be now

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um all of the work uh over my senior

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year was what i took to bell

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laboratories

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for my interview that i had after i

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graduated

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and i was still only 17 years old at the

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time

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bell hired me that summer of 81

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and i didn't even turn 18 until october

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of that year

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a couple of months after i was on the

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job in the art group at the labs

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now a couple of years later

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i was at our local music store uh

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thompson's music

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across the street from east gate mall

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and it was the middle of winter and i

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was walking back to my apartment

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which was uh up the street washington

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boulevard there

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and i decided to take a shortcut through

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the east gate mall parking lot it was a

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massive parking lot

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that was empty covered in snow through

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this snowstorm

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and as i walked in this blinding snow

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and it was cold and it was windy

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i saw way up ahead of me 100 yards right

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i saw somebody walking towards me in the

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distance

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and our paths started to meet and i

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could i could see that

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and and we did face to face in the

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middle of the snowstorm

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and i hear in this snowstorm

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as i leave as i live and breathe mr

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00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,799
church and i looked up i was like mr

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hayes

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00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,679
what the hell man and

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00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:36,320
i mean i just couldn't believe it and i

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asked him about school

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00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,039
and he had said that he had just retired

548
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:43,600
i'm starting to get choked up here

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00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,240
and uh he said that he had just retired

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00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:48,240
and i told him about bell labs and i

551
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:49,520
said man i'm working at bell

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00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:52,400
laboratories and you help me get the job

553
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:55,840
you know and he smiled and he was happy

554
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,720
he really was

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00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,520
getting a lump in my throat we hugged we

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00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:00,320
shook hands

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00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,600
and said goodbye and i turned

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00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:06,400
and and watched him walk through the

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snow

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00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:08,400
you know across the parking lot i

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00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,919
understand i'm like man that is the

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00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:11,440
weirdest thing

563
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:14,000
and that was it that was it never saw

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00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:15,600
him again

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00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:19,440
that was it but

566
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:26,870
that is the power of music

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00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,080
it will always take you to places that

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00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:32,799
you need to get to

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00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:36,159
that's the power of music and in diamond

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00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:37,440
haze

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00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:40,720
through that semester two semesters

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00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,720
three classes a day played me the most

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00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,200
extraordinary music

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and the tales that he told us about

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these jazz bands and these jazz

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musicians i remember all of them

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to this day and he also gave us the

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freedom

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of q-95 you know jackson brown

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jackson brown bob seeger you know ariel

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speedwagon these indianapolis bands

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they take me back to that drafting room

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and uh and and i want to thank diamond

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hayes i know he's no longer with us

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but uh you made me who i am today and

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super brought all of those

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memories back

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and i don't want to uh i don't want to

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forget diamond haze

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with that tonight we have very special

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guest

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christina gomez is with us of the

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debrief she's

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joining us for the very first time i

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want to remind everybody

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again i'll be on location for the rest

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of the week after tonight i am shooting

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a new film

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it's going to be great it's going to be

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released in september

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i'm excited about all of that i will be

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back

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a week from today next monday for a

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brand new week of fade to black

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right now i'm going to take a short

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break this is

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fade to black on the game changer

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with our guest christina gomez stay

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[Music]

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight

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christina gomez of the debrief

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joins us for the first time excited

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about the show tonight

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we're gonna find out how she got into

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she literally just dropped off my screen

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[Music]

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[Laughter]

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oh man we're going to find out how

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she got into ufology and what it's like

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to be the bright

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new fresh voice of our community

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and uh that was crazy right as right

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right as i said that

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boom she disappeared christina became

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fascinated with the concept of alien

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life at a very young

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uh christina christina christina

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but uh it wasn't until high school that

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her interest became

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serious she's in college now studying

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for a

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ba degree in business and communication

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she began her own

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00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,240
youtube channel to scrutinize public ufo

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sighting videos submitted to a variety

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of platforms

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00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:18,400
using video software she slowed down the

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footage

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00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:21,440
zoomed in stabilized and enhanced then

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00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,119
would post the results for

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00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,320
others to study well in march 2021 she

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00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:27,839
began working with the team at the

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00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,800
debrief

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00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,800
producing video content featuring

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interviews with prominent figures in the

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ufo research community

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00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,200
such as lou elizondo and james fox

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now she is writing her first book which

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will take a deep dive into

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many aspects of the ufo mystery from the

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perspective of

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a young gen z latina

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being aimed at her generation to promote

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more interest in the subject while

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continuing to interview researchers and

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witnesses on her youtube channel

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which has several feature shows that

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cover different aspects of the

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phenomenon and i would like to welcome

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for the first time to fade to black

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christina gomez christina good evening

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how are you

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fantastic thank you for asking

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but uh christina okay tap on your

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microphone

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working

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[Laughter]

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00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:33,760
i love it i love it i i get to ask uh

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or i get to give christina yeah there

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you go

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00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:41,599
that's what everybody wants to hear okay

786
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,560
okay so let me say my uh laptop

787
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restarted twice

788
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right before going live so my heart's

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racing a little bit but you look good

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remember remember in the words of the

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great ricardo montebon

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it's better to look good than to feel

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good

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00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,480
always remember that now uh christina

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you get the first time guest disclaimer

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are you ready okay christina it's just

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you and i sitting on my couch having a

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conversation as friends and where that

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00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,599
conversation starts it starts where it

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ends it ends

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00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:18,640
but we're gonna end his friends there

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00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:23,760
you go you ready yes i am ready

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00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:26,160
take a deep breath christina i i've got

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to start here

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00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:30,079
because um i've i've

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00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:33,280
watched your entrance in uh to

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00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:36,160
the ufo community and it's been great

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00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:36,880
and

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00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,680
as you know i've been lurking in the

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00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,200
background i've been

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watching your shows and hanging out a

812
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,040
little bit and participating

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00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,560
but uh with keen interests like

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00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,640
everybody else and

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00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,640
so tonight i want to talk about you a

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little bit and

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i i want to start uh with

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with why the interest in in in ufos

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was there something that happened when

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when you were a kid did you see

821
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something was it your parents are they

822
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,090
crazy

823
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,119
[Laughter]

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my parents my dad is a really big

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00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:13,599
influence to what i do today since i was

826
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five until present day we've always

827
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watched reruns of the twilight zone and

828
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the outer limits

829
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,079
and for those that are not familiar with

830
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:23,839
the twilight zone it's a

831
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,960
a tv show from the very early 1960s when

832
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:28,480
it was still black and white

833
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:30,560
and it covered topics on the paranormal

834
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the fringe portals

835
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,480
bigfoot ufos but adding this aspect of

836
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:38,960
critical thinking that other tv shows

837
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:41,119
just don't possess where they really

838
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,000
make you

839
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:44,400
think of what if without really giving

840
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,040
you

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00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,839
the answers so in a way it was like

842
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,359
watching these shows

843
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,880
you're not watching it only for

844
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,800
entertainment but you're making your own

845
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,119
conclusions on these kind of

846
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:57,599
bizarre topics and especially for this

847
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,560
time period the early 1960s

848
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,960
this was a hundred percent taboo no one

849
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,160
talked about this

850
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,880
openly and it's a show that i've never

851
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:09,040
gotten tired of i've watched it for

852
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,560
what 15 years and i can still

853
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,960
watch it i love it that much and so

854
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,599
that's what

855
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:18,000
really sparked my interest was my dad be

856
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:18,880
loving it

857
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:22,160
and then later when i was about like

858
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,599
eight or nine i began to join a horse

859
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,040
camp where i did

860
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,359
western writing and this was the very

861
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:31,359
first time i was exposed

862
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:34,400
to campfire stories and there's a really

863
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:35,760
big difference between

864
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:38,240
watching tv shows and being interested

865
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:38,800
on it

866
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,119
and being in a campfire with other

867
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:43,119
people your age or those older or

868
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:43,760
younger

869
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,560
fire s'mores ton of sugar going through

870
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:48,240
your system at a young age

871
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,520
you know and being under the stars so it

872
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:52,640
adds this whole

873
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:56,320
other flavor to hearing these stories

874
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,800
watching

875
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:59,119
other people give their stories or even

876
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,200
their expressions to the things that

877
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,520
they're hearing about these stories

878
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,680
and that was the big time where i heard

879
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:06,880
other people

880
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:10,000
talking about bigfoot ufos things that

881
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,800
are going on

882
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,119
in space that we don't really know about

883
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:14,720
and it's also including you know

884
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:17,760
um fiction stories or sci-fi that

885
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,079
aren't necessarily true stories it could

886
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:21,440
also be myths

887
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,560
but that's what later on

888
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:26,560
made me want to start going into the

889
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,160
library and

890
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,800
getting my hands on all of these types

891
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,160
of books that i could

892
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:34,000
and ever since then i've never left the

893
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,680
library

894
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,240
i spent all of my free time there when i

895
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,760
was younger but now i don't have free

896
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,760
time so i'm not in the library

897
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:44,480
sounds like a uh an episode of fade to

898
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,520
black

899
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:47,599
and it and what's what's what's cool

900
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:48,800
about that though

901
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,240
is you start to maybe

902
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:54,480
think that the world isn't what it seems

903
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:55,599
to be

904
00:41:02,550 --> 00:40:59,839
maybe it's not

905
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,560
right and did that start to chart that

906
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,160
course for you

907
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,400
it's those kinds of questions of saying

908
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:08,800
well it should be normal but it's not

909
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:09,200
that

910
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,640
makes you ask those huge questions

911
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,800
the biggest ones are we alone in the

912
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,839
universe

913
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,960
what's going on that the eyes cannot

914
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:21,599
see there are so many things right that

915
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,079
we

916
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,319
cannot see with our eyes there's only a

917
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:26,480
certain spectrum of light

918
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,760
that is able to be seen so with these

919
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:31,040
kinds of questions

920
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,839
researching the paranormal research

921
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:36,560
researching the ufo topic at a young age

922
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:40,880
it really began to feed this curiosity

923
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,520
but also

924
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,839
really made me stand out from my peers

925
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,920
so i did not talk about it

926
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,839
when i was in middle school and

927
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,839
especially in high school it's not

928
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,359
something that i spoke to

929
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:54,240
with my friends or my peers instead i

930
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:54,960
would spend

931
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:57,839
all day every day in the library i would

932
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:58,240
ditch

933
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:01,040
class to hang out in the library and

934
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,079
it's just not

935
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,160
something that i would talk about

936
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,839
because we know in high school

937
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,680
those of us that have children that are

938
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:08,880
in high school

939
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,400
you just want to fit in you want to wear

940
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:14,240
the clothes that are in you want to talk

941
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:15,920
about the conversations that are

942
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,720
trending

943
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,880
you want to have friends that are cool

944
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:20,880
this that and the other all this boring

945
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:21,839
stuff

946
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,880
but you do not want to stand out the

947
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,000
wrong way and

948
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:28,480
at this time when i was in high school

949
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:29,680
talking about aliens

950
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,319
talking about ufos interdimensionals um

951
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:33,920
all these kinds of topics

952
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:37,040
were still laughed at and wasn't taken

953
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:40,319
seriously it wasn't until

954
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,000
college that i really wanted to

955
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:47,359
get serious really get serious

956
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:51,040
on the topic where i had this desire to

957
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:51,599
want to

958
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,560
talk about this with my peers but i

959
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:57,359
quickly realized after i left very far

960
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,079
from home

961
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,560
i wanted to leave as far as possible

962
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,400
from where i grew up

963
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:05,200
i realized when talking to these people

964
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:06,640
trying to engage them

965
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:09,760
in these kinds of topics they

966
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:12,079
wanted to be under some kind of

967
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,280
substance

968
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,760
while having these conversations they

969
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:17,280
didn't want to do it with a sober

970
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,240
mindset

971
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,440
and for me i'm like no i want to talk

972
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:23,440
about this with the clearest mind

973
00:43:27,470 --> 00:43:24,400
possible

974
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,480
get the best information i can try to

975
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:29,920
understand what's going on

976
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,319
versus having a good time quote quote

977
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:37,359
well that's part of college though but

978
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,640
i i wanted to ask you this um

979
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,720
uh i think it was a couple of weeks ago

980
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,760
i'm hanging out

981
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,560
in in one of your live streams and you

982
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:47,920
said something

983
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:55,670
so can i ask you about that go for it

984
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,599
you said my parents don't know what i'm

985
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:01,040
doing right now

986
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:04,640
that's correct and i said to myself

987
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:08,400
do they not have the internet right

988
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,599
but but they don't know about the debris

989
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:14,160
for your youtube channel or your twitter

990
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:14,960
feed

991
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,160
they they don't know these things no

992
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,640
they do not um i avoid talking about

993
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:22,880
this with my parents even though they're

994
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,920
huge fans of ancient aliens they can

995
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:27,119
talk about it for

996
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:29,839
hours about how much they love this show

997
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,480
my mom's

998
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,880
obsessed with giorgio suculos like she's

999
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,000
in love with him

1000
00:44:39,790 --> 00:44:36,960
but coming from a latin background my

1001
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:39,800
mom's venezuelan my dad is um

1002
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,640
mexican-american i'm in college i'm

1003
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:44,079
supposed to get a degree

1004
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:47,359
not have any distractions and

1005
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,880
the ufo topic is a ginormous distraction

1006
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:51,839
in their eyes

1007
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:54,880
it has nothing to do with my degree

1008
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,160
and it's it's these kinds of things that

1009
00:45:01,430 --> 00:45:00,240
i can't just casually talk about on the

1010
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:01,440
dinner table

1011
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:04,560
while i'm in college but if they do end

1012
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:04,800
up

1013
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:08,160
finding out before i graduate i know

1014
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:09,359
that they will be my

1015
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,480
biggest fans yet they would also say

1016
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,400
oh yeah mija you should be studying on

1017
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:16,720
your college courses not este

1018
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:20,480
and i'm like okay mom why don't i have

1019
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:23,760
giorgio call your mom

1020
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,880
and and say uh miss gomez uh i

1021
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,400
i want to talk to you about your

1022
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,720
daughter with that with that

1023
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:33,200
would that maybe open the door a little

1024
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,960
bit make it okay

1025
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:37,119
i think my mom would faint yes she would

1026
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,920
i think she would pass out on the floor

1027
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:42,240
i think i can arrange that i think i can

1028
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,200
arrange that

1029
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:45,760
i think i i think i can make that happen

1030
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:47,599
it's going to end up being a reality tv

1031
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:48,400
show jimmy

1032
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:51,680
i think i can make that happen but is

1033
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,560
the and i understand that you know um

1034
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,880
you're far away from home and things but

1035
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,560
but they know that you're going to be

1036
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:00,000
branching out and doing

1037
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:03,119
your own thing and and i i think that

1038
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,319
they would be impressed

1039
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:07,200
i really do you put a lot of effort into

1040
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,400
this

1041
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,960
i try to but i think when the time comes

1042
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,720
when i graduate i will

1043
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:15,440
openly talk about it to my my family

1044
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,400
along with

1045
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,720
with my friends as well but i know when

1046
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:20,560
it comes to college and my college

1047
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:21,040
friends

1048
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:23,599
they are aware that i'm interested in

1049
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,720
the ufo topic

1050
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:26,800
they're just not they just don't know to

1051
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,000
what extent they don't

1052
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,720
know my internet persona because i'm not

1053
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:31,920
really the type

1054
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:35,119
to yell out to the public about my life

1055
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,040
about what i do online or even about my

1056
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:38,960
personal life i'm a very

1057
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:42,480
private person and i don't like to

1058
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:47,520
give my opinions and um and i don't like

1059
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:50,720
comparing myself to others especially

1060
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:54,079
in this field because i'm

1061
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:56,319
very very new to this topic i've only

1062
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:58,960
been researching heavily for the last

1063
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:02,240
year or so so people ask for my opinions

1064
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:02,560
on

1065
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:08,079
i believe that they're uneducated

1066
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:09,839
compared to those that have been in this

1067
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,319
field

1068
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,359
for decades and also it's due to my

1069
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:16,000
lack of experience again i've only been

1070
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:17,040
doing this for

1071
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,480
heavily for about a year or so

1072
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,960
the uh let me give you some harsh

1073
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:24,240
reality

1074
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:27,520
i'm uh i'm going to be 58

1075
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,880
and i consider much jimmy i consider

1076
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,240
myself

1077
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,280
young in in this you know in this in

1078
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:37,680
this community

1079
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:40,400
uh and what i mean by that is i just

1080
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,680
like you

1081
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:44,319
um i am familiar with and have followed

1082
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:45,040
so many

1083
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,640
uh researchers and experiencers and

1084
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:51,040
and personalities in the ufo community

1085
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,000
community for such

1086
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:55,119
a long time that now i i work alongside

1087
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,760
them

1088
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,680
but i still feel like the new guy in the

1089
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:59,119
room i really do

1090
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,280
i i honestly uh i honestly feel that way

1091
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:06,480
but as as you move forward um

1092
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:09,280
always remember that uh if i can give

1093
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:10,800
you a piece of advice

1094
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,240
nobody has the answers nobody does

1095
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:16,559
um if somebody says that they have the

1096
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,359
answers

1097
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,240
run because they don't know they they

1098
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:21,839
simply don't know

1099
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,559
constantly pull the information in

1100
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:25,920
that's all you got to do just

1101
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,559
just pull it in take a look at it and

1102
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,000
file it away

1103
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:32,400
and and take steps forward and and and

1104
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,599
you'll be just fine

1105
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:36,079
so that's it but let's get back to you

1106
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:37,280
have you seen anything

1107
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:40,400
now i i saw your um

1108
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:43,680
your uh uh night watch sky

1109
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:46,839
watch equipment uh presentation

1110
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,160
right do you have gear have you gone out

1111
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,319
on a sky watch have you seen anything

1112
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,559
strange

1113
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,760
so i have gone out i i have um

1114
00:49:01,270 --> 00:48:59,680
some interesting equipment i wouldn't

1115
00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:01,280
say it's special i think the only one

1116
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,319
that's worth

1117
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:05,440
mentioning is called the psionics aurora

1118
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:06,000
pro

1119
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,520
which is a night vision camera beautiful

1120
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:12,240
you do i sure do the color one right the

1121
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:13,280
color one

1122
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:16,230
yes yes yes yes

1123
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,000
[Laughter]

1124
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,559
color the opposite of black and white

1125
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,720
the opposite of the twilight zone

1126
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:24,800
okay but yes i have one of those they're

1127
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,920
really cool

1128
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,839
oh they're amazing for those that have a

1129
00:49:33,549 --> 00:49:30,000
budget to spend a little bit of cash

1130
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,559
i recommend getting one they are

1131
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,000
insanely incredible so i do have

1132
00:49:39,069 --> 00:49:38,079
equipment along with basic equipment

1133
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:39,079
such as

1134
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,800
binoculars head lamps battery packs

1135
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:45,599
can never forget the snacks you get

1136
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,400
really munchy during night watches

1137
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:50,559
because you know they also do but look

1138
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,839
in the sky it makes you hungry

1139
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:55,920
people forget these things sometimes and

1140
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:58,000
so when i was doing this

1141
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,680
live cast about gear and gadgets to do

1142
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,680
night sky watches there were a few

1143
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,200
things that even i

1144
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:07,599
learned and i found them very very

1145
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:08,960
valuable and i hope that

1146
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,440
other people can get the same kind of

1147
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,200
value that i was getting

1148
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:16,000
the big reason to why i have my youtube

1149
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,480
channel

1150
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:18,720
shifting the paradigm the big reason to

1151
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,599
why i have

1152
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:22,480
the shows that i have such as shifting

1153
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,440
the paradigm and

1154
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:26,000
mysteries with the history is not only

1155
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:26,960
to structure

1156
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:30,240
my research because the ufo topic

1157
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:34,480
is so broad you can so easily get

1158
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,000
lost in research so with these

1159
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:40,640
shows that i have and bringing in guests

1160
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:41,440
such as

1161
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:44,559
ufo researchers and ufo enthusiasts it

1162
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:45,119
really

1163
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,160
helps narrow the research down you're

1164
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:49,760
talking with people that are

1165
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:53,119
knowledgeable in a very specific section

1166
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,319
of the field and this helps

1167
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:58,800
answer any questions that you have or at

1168
00:51:02,390 --> 00:50:59,440
least

1169
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:02,400
lead you into the right direction so

1170
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:03,200
with

1171
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,480
shows it's to

1172
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:09,440
motivate myself and inspire myself but

1173
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:10,400
also inspire

1174
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:13,520
others that are watching because you can

1175
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,720
so easily get swallowed in the ocean of

1176
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,960
all this information you don't know

1177
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,960
what's disinformation you don't know

1178
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,079
what's truth

1179
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,640
so having people guide you or even just

1180
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,640
asking questions

1181
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,800
can really make a big difference when it

1182
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,119
comes to research in this field

1183
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:33,520
now i have to ask you uh before we get

1184
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,640
to the break

1185
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:36,960
how did you uh get connected up with the

1186
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:39,280
debrief

1187
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:42,160
so tim mcmillan uh reached out to me he

1188
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:42,960
saw my

1189
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,760
youtube channel and he said we want you

1190
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:47,040
on the team

1191
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:50,079
it was as simple as that it was as

1192
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:53,280
simple as that there's nothing else who

1193
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:57,200
who's cooler tim mcmillan or micah hanks

1194
00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:58,480
i just want to know who's the better

1195
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:03,270
tim mcmillan is the one that i have the

1196
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,480
most contact with

1197
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:07,200
when it comes to creating content for

1198
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,240
the debrief

1199
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,040
tim mcmillan is a more strict journalist

1200
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:13,200
so i don't have a lot of communication

1201
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,240
with him

1202
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:16,839
but so you're saying micah hanks is

1203
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,319
cooler

1204
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,240
well don't don't put words in my mouth

1205
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:22,000
jimmy but that's that's the correct

1206
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,200
answer though

1207
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,880
if you're gonna move forward i know mike

1208
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:26,319
is laughing right now

1209
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:29,200
and uh micah go ahead and text me and

1210
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:31,599
let me know that you heard that

1211
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:34,480
christina says you're the cool one and

1212
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:35,440
this is the other thing

1213
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,720
micah wears really cool socks so

1214
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,480
he's got that going for him too plus he

1215
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:42,800
plays guitar but the debrief

1216
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:45,680
um a lot like uh what you have been

1217
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:46,720
doing

1218
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:49,599
the the debrief is new too you know mike

1219
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,240
is not

1220
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,760
you know and tim mcmillan's been around

1221
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:54,000
for a while uh mike has been at this for

1222
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:55,200
a very long time

1223
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:58,640
but the debrief itself is a platform um

1224
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:01,040
has just you know virtually just

1225
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:02,640
launched you know it's a

1226
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,240
a year old yeah yeah and it has become

1227
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,880
uh a cornerstone of the community very

1228
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:10,960
quickly

1229
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,599
it has and when it's been referenced

1230
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:15,760
from people such as joe rogan that also

1231
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:16,240
really

1232
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,400
builds up their credibility but they're

1233
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:19,440
not just

1234
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,720
a uap

1235
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,720
website there's so much these

1236
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:26,880
journalists are so much more they also

1237
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:27,440
talk about

1238
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:30,720
aerospace technology futurism and

1239
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:34,000
so many other cutting edge topics that

1240
00:53:37,630 --> 00:53:34,640
are not

1241
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,640
just uap and that sometimes can be a

1242
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:39,359
misconception

1243
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,400
and that's what i really love about them

1244
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:44,400
is that they take their job

1245
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:47,920
so seriously they really vet out

1246
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,240
all of the information that they get

1247
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:52,079
they do background information and they

1248
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:53,280
do countless

1249
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:55,920
interviews and they they write amazing

1250
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:56,960
articles by

1251
00:54:00,710 --> 00:54:00,319
countless journalists and do a beautiful

1252
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,720
job

1253
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:02,319
honestly i'm so lucky to be a part of

1254
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,119
the debrief team now what about uh

1255
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,000
your studies in college are you

1256
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:10,079
venturing into any of the sciences

1257
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,119
or astronomy or or

1258
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,960
anything where you can ask some funky

1259
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,119
questions

1260
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:20,000
i'm currently majoring in communication

1261
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:20,720
and

1262
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:23,839
business so nothing to do with the uap

1263
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:26,960
topic at all when you're

1264
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,319
in high school that's when you decide

1265
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,640
what career you want and that can be a

1266
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:34,480
little bit difficult because i wasn't

1267
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:37,280
so serious about the uap topic i was

1268
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:38,000
never very

1269
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:42,880
good at math

1270
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,319
so i i wanted to find a topic or a

1271
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:49,200
degree that i knew i could get a degree

1272
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,079
in

1273
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:53,040
just i just wanted to pass and leave and

1274
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,520
jimmy

1275
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:55,119
let me tell you a really embarrassing

1276
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:56,960
story okay i'll tell you an embarrassing

1277
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:57,359
story

1278
00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:00,400
go ahead in my freshman year in high

1279
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:00,880
school

1280
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:03,280
i had a math tutor that was recommended

1281
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:04,480
to me by a

1282
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:07,599
friend the dumb thing was he was a

1283
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:10,240
college professor in math like basic

1284
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,960
math

1285
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,599
that was already a mistake and so he

1286
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:15,280
would come to like a come to the house

1287
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,000
tutor

1288
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:18,559
and i was really struggling with like

1289
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:19,760
basic algebra

1290
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,079
i've i've never really grasped it too

1291
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,319
well so after the third

1292
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:27,040
session he had with me he says where is

1293
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,160
your mom

1294
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:30,319
and i said oh she's outside on a phone

1295
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,520
call he says

1296
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,520
well i need you to bring her in so i

1297
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,040
bring my mom in

1298
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:37,920
and he says right in front of my mom

1299
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:38,319
with

1300
00:55:43,730 --> 00:55:41,520
no embarrassment he says your daughter

1301
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,740
is unteachable i quit

1302
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:45,839
[Laughter]

1303
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,280
and i will never ever you know

1304
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,440
that's rock and roll that's rock and

1305
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,440
roll right there that's rock and roll

1306
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,680
well see this is the thing let's uh

1307
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:57,119
before we get to the break

1308
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:59,200
um so if you're gonna major in

1309
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,720
communications

1310
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,799
uh you have some opportunities right the

1311
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:04,079
college radio station

1312
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:07,760
right uh news broadcast

1313
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:10,480
uh of course journalism and writing

1314
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:11,760
right you're gonna do all of those

1315
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:13,839
things

1316
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,559
so it it becomes more specific those are

1317
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:18,559
all kind of subcategories and you can

1318
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:18,960
take

1319
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:21,599
one course in those but overall

1320
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,839
communication is really just interacting

1321
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:24,640
with people

1322
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,359
right and um just understanding how to

1323
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:29,040
do basic journalism

1324
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,880
but also to it it's kind of more of like

1325
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,880
an elective degree it's not it's not

1326
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:36,480
incredibly structured the one that i'm

1327
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:37,040
taking

1328
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,559
it's one of the easiest ones and that's

1329
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:40,240
why i signed up for it yeah

1330
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,880
yeah no math but this is the thing this

1331
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,079
is what you should do

1332
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:46,559
because this is what i did this is what

1333
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:47,200
i did

1334
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:50,640
i went to uh one of my teachers and

1335
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,119
and i literally said what about the ufos

1336
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:57,119
and he's like what if this guy worked

1337
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,559
for cnn

1338
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,200
right wow and uh i said what about the

1339
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:03,359
ufos man what if you have a ufo

1340
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:06,400
story right no man that's the kiss of

1341
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,440
death

1342
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:09,680
no i'm not go i'm not going to my news

1343
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:10,640
director

1344
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,079
with the ufo story so i recommend that

1345
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,400
you do the same thing just what about

1346
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,440
the ufos just raise your hand in class

1347
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:20,880
i want to be i want to i don't want to

1348
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,839
work for entertainment tonight

1349
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:26,400
i want to be the ufo girl that's what i

1350
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:27,359
want to do

1351
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:28,559
and that's what i'm doing for the

1352
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:31,680
debrief so my dream is coming true

1353
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,880
yeah and uh i'm wondering about your

1354
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:36,880
approach to it

1355
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,720
the there's like two ways you can go

1356
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:43,040
i i like play it down the middle but

1357
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:44,720
you've got the scientific

1358
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:47,839
fact based side of ufology and you got

1359
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,240
the

1360
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:51,359
full on crazy woo-woo side

1361
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,559
the tin hats yes yes which which way

1362
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:56,559
which which course are you going to

1363
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,760
chart

1364
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,920
well with the debrief and with my work

1365
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,960
as well

1366
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,319
you're going to go with the more

1367
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,400
scientific way the one with evidence

1368
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:07,680
the one with no bias or opinion

1369
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:09,920
the more woo-woo section or the tinfoil

1370
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:12,240
hat is a lot of conspiracy theories it's

1371
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:13,119
a lot of

1372
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,160
well i think and that can kind of be a

1373
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:18,640
dangerous road especially for

1374
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:19,440
journalists

1375
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,640
or those that are a public figure online

1376
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,960
so with shifting the paradigm and with

1377
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:26,160
the debrief

1378
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:29,680
i've interviewed people that have a good

1379
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:31,839
background and with the debrief even

1380
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:33,920
though i may be their ufo girl

1381
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,640
i've also interviewed a man by the name

1382
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,400
of jacob hackmishra

1383
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:40,640
who is an astrobiologist so instead of

1384
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:41,440
talking about

1385
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:44,720
yes there are ufos visiting us he goes

1386
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,160
more into the topic that

1387
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:51,040
how does life evolve in space if a

1388
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:52,319
certain planet

1389
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:56,480
is rotating around a star

1390
00:59:02,789 --> 00:58:59,760
what is needed for life to evolve

1391
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:02,799
so you're taking a very more scientific

1392
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:05,280
approach to that kind of topic and i

1393
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:06,799
find it beautiful

1394
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:09,920
and it has a lot of evidence behind it

1395
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:10,559
or

1396
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,559
some kind of hypothesis

1397
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:16,720
to why they believe what they do versus

1398
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,079
saying well i think

1399
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:20,319
this even though it's an uneducated

1400
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,200
guess

1401
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:23,280
yeah and that's a really good point uh

1402
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:24,480
but i would say

1403
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:28,799
except the woo-woo out there

1404
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,200
has turned out to be right right that's

1405
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:33,680
the whole that's the whole crazy part

1406
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:37,280
and when i go and interview somebody

1407
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:38,960
like avi loeb

1408
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:42,640
or um uh isaac arthur

1409
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:44,960
right these these brilliant physicists

1410
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,040
these guys are full woo-woo

1411
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:49,359
i mean they they are willing to cross

1412
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the line and go woo-woo

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00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:53,839
because science and woo-woo are about to

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hit

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head-on and they can't avoid it you know

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and that

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i wouldn't i wouldn't say it's woo jimmy

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i would say they have

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a higher educated guest than those that

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are not

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in that kind of field and i deeply

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admire avi lope he has done some amazing

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interviews and

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really covered some interesting topics

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01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:14,400
but the thing that you stated that i

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loved or that i found interesting was

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woo-woos are are saying the truth now

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01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:23,599
it's the same thing with science fiction

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01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,880
30 years ago 50 years ago it was science

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01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:29,200
fiction but now it is science

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01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:31,760
fact keep doing what you're doing let's

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take our break right here this is fade

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to black

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i am your host jimmy church our guest

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tonight

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01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,280
christina gomez christina gomez of the

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debrief is with us we're going to take a

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quick break

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and uh when we come back i've got a

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surprise for christina

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i've got a surprise i gave her a little

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warning i gave her the shot across the

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bow

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earlier today she has no idea we're

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back i'm here with jimmy church

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am your host jimmy church tonight

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christina gomez of the debrief

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is with us and her link over to her

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uh this is what i decided to do um

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and i have uh christina i just want to

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01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:46,400
let you know that

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01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:50,160
um i've i've watched a lot of your

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01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:52,880
uh presentations and your research and

1579
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:55,920
it all intrigued me oh by the way

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01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:58,240
you didn't answer my question uh in the

1581
01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:59,599
in the first segment

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01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:01,520
have you seen anything strange in the

1583
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:02,720
sky have you had

1584
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:06,240
your first ufo sighting yes

1585
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:14,309
it's it's not something i've ever spoken

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01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:15,119
about

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01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:17,200
because when i went out when i went on a

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01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:19,760
vacation like a normal vacation on a

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01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:23,200
tour group not like a ufo tour group

1590
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:26,160
we we encountered something that we

1591
01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:28,160
agreed not to talk about to the public

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01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:30,079
just because for some it really

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01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:31,200
terrified us

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01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:34,960
but what i can say is that it kind of

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01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:35,760
resembled

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01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,960
the carlos diaz lights and

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01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:41,440
so it looked kind of like a glowing

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01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:42,240
jellyfish

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01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:44,720
it wasn't fully metallic it wasn't fully

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organic

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01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:48,160
it was kind of a mixture of the two but

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01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:49,839
it's not something that i've really

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01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:50,319
fully

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01:07:56,270 --> 01:07:53,520
processed but it did solidify

1605
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:56,280
my belief in such things and it

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01:08:01,270 --> 01:07:57,599
completely

1607
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:01,280
shifted my paradigm so what happened

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01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:04,400
altitude distance how many friends were

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01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:06,079
with you

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01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,760
those are too many questions jim yeah i

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01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:09,200
know it's my job

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01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:12,240
and i'm really good at it by the way so

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01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:15,680
uh yeah yeah how far away was it

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01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,199
well like i said it's something that we

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01:08:20,709 --> 01:08:18,799
all agreed not to speak about but

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01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:20,719
this is the first time i've ever even

1617
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,920
talked about it

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01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,520
so i think that's a really big deal but

1619
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:25,920
when it comes to trajectory or how far

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01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:31,349
because i didn't have the knowledge that

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01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,560
i have today

1622
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,719
it could have changed completely i had

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01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,960
nothing to measure it with but i will

1624
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:38,719
say it was somewhat close to us

1625
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,480
not incredibly close because i don't

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01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:42,480
know how far how close it was

1627
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:44,960
but somewhat decent and you said it it

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01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:47,199
wasn't metallic

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01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:50,560
it it didn't seem fully metallic and it

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01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:53,440
didn't seem fully organic it was kind of

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01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:53,759
a

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01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:57,120
only

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01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:59,839
describe it as similar to the carlos

1634
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:00,880
diaz lights

1635
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:05,520
what color kind of yellowy orange

1636
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:08,560
that's really cool how how long

1637
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:12,880
how long was it uh uh visible

1638
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:15,120
excuse me how long was it visible how

1639
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,239
long oh

1640
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:18,239
only 30 seconds so it wasn't long enough

1641
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:20,960
to do a take pictures take video like

1642
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,440
we all should be doing whenever we see

1643
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,199
something insane

1644
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:27,440
we were in such shock that none of us

1645
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:28,640
got any footage

1646
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:30,880
well i've been down that road it's

1647
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:32,839
totally understandable but

1648
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:35,120
afterwards uh what went through your

1649
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:37,040
mind you know like holy crap

1650
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:40,400
this stuff is real even even to this day

1651
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:42,719
it's not something i fully processed

1652
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:46,960
because i i couldn't explain it

1653
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:50,159
and what about your friends my friends

1654
01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:50,960
that were there

1655
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:54,159
yes it's it's one of those

1656
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,880
kinds of things that you see it and you

1657
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,719
don't really talk about it after

1658
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,719
yeah i know i know i know how long ago

1659
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:02,960
did this happen to pass

1660
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:06,320
maybe three or four years ago wow

1661
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:10,480
yeah and uh daytime nighttime

1662
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:23,110
night time night time what what time

1663
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,310
i don't know like

1664
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,950
seven or eight o'clock okay so but the

1665
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,560
point is you're awake

1666
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:35,120
right this is i was awake and i did see

1667
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:37,280
it for 30 seconds there was no missing

1668
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:37,920
time

1669
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,000
um none of our electronics were

1670
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:41,920
misbehaving in any way

1671
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:44,880
right right and with what you know now

1672
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:45,280
what

1673
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,400
um in in the research that you've done

1674
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:50,880
you know since then what do you think

1675
01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:52,960
you saw was it inter-dimensional do you

1676
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:53,679
think it was a

1677
01:11:02,070 --> 01:10:58,950
even with all the research that i have

1678
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,080
done and when it comes to the ufo topic

1679
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,800
everything is merely speculation we

1680
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:06,400
don't really know what we see in the

1681
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:07,679
skies we don't really know

1682
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:10,000
what we see when we when videos are

1683
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:11,440
recorded

1684
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:14,159
we can only possibly guess because

1685
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:15,199
there's no real

1686
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:18,239
evidence on to explain the things that

1687
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:19,199
we see

1688
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:22,320
so it's i don't know i truly do not know

1689
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:26,640
and not something that i'm ready to

1690
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:30,960
really speculate on publicly

1691
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:35,920
the um the cases that are out there

1692
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:38,960
do you have um uh

1693
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:42,000
i'll i'll i'll help you out here one of

1694
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:42,520
my

1695
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:45,600
favorite if i'm going to say

1696
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:49,840
the i have two the best photographs

1697
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:53,120
out there i've got rex heflin

1698
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,760
uh orange county california in the 60s

1699
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:57,280
that series of photographs

1700
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:59,199
still to this day i i think are

1701
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:00,480
extraordinary

1702
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:02,880
and the rhodes photographs uh from

1703
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:05,760
phoenix arizona back in 1947

1704
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:08,320
uh though those two images stick out for

1705
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:09,120
me uh

1706
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:12,400
do you have a case that that is

1707
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:16,719
your favorite my favorite case

1708
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:19,280
if it's not including um photos or

1709
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:19,920
videos

1710
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:21,520
being recorded my favorite case would

1711
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:23,520
either be the travis walton case one of

1712
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:25,120
the most famous ones that we've all

1713
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:26,000
heard of

1714
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:28,080
or the one by whitley strieber when he

1715
01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:29,360
wrote his book and talked about

1716
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:30,880
communion

1717
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:33,840
those two are some of the most extreme

1718
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:34,880
stories

1719
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:38,320
and also one of my absolute favorites in

1720
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:41,520
every possible way now i've put together

1721
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:42,800
a list

1722
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,000
that i wanted to ask you about

1723
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:51,440
and uh oddly enough travis walton

1724
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:55,120
is number two on the list so

1725
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:57,440
um but to help the audience better

1726
01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:58,400
understand

1727
01:13:02,149 --> 01:13:01,600
uh who you are um i wanted to go through

1728
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:02,159
these

1729
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,640
discuss them

1730
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,199
so let's uh travis walton was number two

1731
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:11,440
but since you mentioned travis

1732
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:14,800
uh let's start there um

1733
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:18,800
uh what what it attracts you to travis

1734
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:19,440
walton

1735
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,679
and uh uh have you spoken with him

1736
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:25,840
i haven't i have not had the pleasure to

1737
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:28,000
speak with him but if it does happen

1738
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:29,520
i think my heart will fall out of my

1739
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:32,000
chest okay i can make that happen too i

1740
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:32,960
can make that happen

1741
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:35,760
i'll have travis call your mom you know

1742
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:36,640
what's gonna happen

1743
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,159
she knows who he is you know what's

1744
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:40,239
gonna happen your mom's gonna call you

1745
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:41,040
tomorrow

1746
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:44,159
who who is this jimmy church me huh

1747
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:46,159
one of my friends just called me and

1748
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,159
said that they heard you last night

1749
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:51,040
on on this show talking about little

1750
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,920
green men

1751
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:54,000
what's going on you know it's gonna

1752
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:55,600
happen i'm just

1753
01:14:02,229 --> 01:13:58,960
the warning is there but uh

1754
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:02,239
travis walton uh is

1755
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:05,360
is is it is it the evidence

1756
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,840
is it the the witnesses you know the

1757
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:09,120
crew around him

1758
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:12,400
is it his testimony uh what is it

1759
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:16,400
uh for you that that makes his story

1760
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,360
uh what it is it's all the bits and

1761
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:20,560
pieces it's not just

1762
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,880
one factor it's not just the other it's

1763
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:24,480
all of them combined

1764
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:26,480
yes you have travis walton having his

1765
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,000
experience documenting

1766
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:30,080
it in his book yes you have the

1767
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:31,920
witnesses talking about it

1768
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:34,560
but also the fact that he was missing

1769
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:35,679
for several days

1770
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,000
no one could find him and then he just

1771
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:39,920
suddenly appeared

1772
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,719
that's huge because not only do you have

1773
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:44,640
those witnesses of the other men that

1774
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:45,600
were with him

1775
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:49,040
but now you have policemen even those in

1776
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:51,600
the town that couldn't account for the

1777
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,080
time

1778
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:55,360
he was gone no one knew where he was

1779
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,840
and then you have the beautiful lie

1780
01:15:03,669 --> 01:14:59,760
detector tests

1781
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:03,679
you have all of these factors

1782
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:07,440
that make the story as a whole something

1783
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:10,560
so compelling

1784
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:13,040
and when he and when he came back when

1785
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:13,679
he came back

1786
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:17,360
after he was found or he wasn't a mess

1787
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,000
he wasn't

1788
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:21,120
a complete mass when he showed up he was

1789
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:21,520
also

1790
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:25,679
naked see there you go

1791
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:27,679
even more interesting why would you be

1792
01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:29,199
naked in public

1793
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:32,239
it's frowned upon yes at a phone booth

1794
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:35,679
but th there's there's another element

1795
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:38,800
uh for me uh with travis and you're

1796
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,400
absolutely right with everything that

1797
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:42,960
you just said but it's also

1798
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:46,080
45 years of

1799
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:49,199
the story being consistent

1800
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:52,719
100 consistent um when do you

1801
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:55,760
you'll meet him someday and when you do

1802
01:16:01,910 --> 01:15:59,040
just simply look into his eyes

1803
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:01,920
it's it's it's an incredible uh thing to

1804
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:02,480
do

1805
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:06,560
and he's such a uh he's very smart

1806
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:08,719
that's the thing and he's also very very

1807
01:16:12,709 --> 01:16:09,920
funny

1808
01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:12,719
but he is grounded and honest and you

1809
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,280
see that

1810
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:16,239
in his eyes and uh so there you go we

1811
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:17,679
got to get him uh

1812
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:20,719
got to get him on your show so okay

1813
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:24,320
uh roswell let's talk about roswell for

1814
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:28,000
a second what's your take on roswell

1815
01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:29,679
it's one of the biggest phenomena right

1816
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:32,480
and this whole mystery especially in the

1817
01:16:36,669 --> 01:16:33,600
united states

1818
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:36,679
there are so many little theories

1819
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:38,000
conspiracies

1820
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:41,520
thoughts opinions and it's never-ending

1821
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:45,280
it's a never-ending conversation with

1822
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:45,920
people

1823
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:51,760
go to that are interested in the ufo

1824
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:52,400
topic

1825
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:54,880
it's the first thing that's researched

1826
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:55,440
in the

1827
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:58,480
in this kind of topic and um

1828
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:01,280
i love it i anything that has to do with

1829
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,000
the ufo

1830
01:17:05,229 --> 01:17:04,320
uap topic and it's just being talked

1831
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:05,239
about

1832
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:09,840
regardless of what the situation is

1833
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,560
it's it's a beautiful thing to hear but

1834
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:13,679
here's the thing

1835
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:16,719
you know i'm still so new and i'm still

1836
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:19,040
learning so much and there's so many

1837
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:22,159
factors to the roswell incident and

1838
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:26,000
all of these other alien stories

1839
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:29,280
now uh the what do you what do you think

1840
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:30,560
about the part of

1841
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:34,239
roswell which involves

1842
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:37,760
uh aliens et's that uh

1843
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:41,120
were were captured rescued and and

1844
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:42,640
spirited away

1845
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:45,760
that that takes the story of any

1846
01:17:52,630 --> 01:17:49,280
uh ufo incident uh to a new level

1847
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:52,640
do you think that uh alien bodies or

1848
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:55,840
living uh uh ets were

1849
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,280
were were captured i'm completely

1850
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:00,960
open-minded to the topic

1851
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:04,880
there is no quote air quotes real

1852
01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:07,120
evidence that can be pumped to the

1853
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:10,320
public but i'm completely open-minded to

1854
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:13,760
the possibility now the

1855
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:17,280
uh the

1856
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:20,480
air base uh roswell army airfield

1857
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:23,920
prepared a press release which was taken

1858
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:26,239
to the roswell daily record and of

1859
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:27,199
course went out

1860
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:30,239
across the wire services and

1861
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:33,280
that statement was crafted

1862
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:36,960
at the army airfield for public release

1863
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,880
it was retracted the next day

1864
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:42,480
where where do you go with that do you

1865
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:44,000
go with the retraction

1866
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:47,520
or did the army intentionally say

1867
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:55,600
the truth there are so many layers to

1868
01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:56,560
the story

1869
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:00,080
there are so many layers to the roswell

1870
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:01,760
incident what if that was all

1871
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:03,600
intentional what if

1872
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:05,760
maybe this whole roswell incident was a

1873
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:07,760
distraction for something

1874
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,280
else we don't know

1875
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:14,000
we do not know why there was a

1876
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:15,520
retraction why something else was

1877
01:19:18,669 --> 01:19:16,080
written

1878
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:18,679
which one to believe it's such a

1879
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:21,360
mysterious topic that no one really has

1880
01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:23,520
real answers to and that's why it's

1881
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,000
still

1882
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:27,679
talked about

1883
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,719
to this day why why people ask the

1884
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:31,679
questions

1885
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:33,760
were there alien bodies how many were

1886
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:35,440
there some say that

1887
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,040
a few of them were dead and one was

1888
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:39,040
alive what happened

1889
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:42,960
to these bodies where are the bodies

1890
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:46,640
we want to see the bodies and and

1891
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:50,080
that's people's attitude towards

1892
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:52,960
it because no one has the real answers

1893
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:55,120
because it's so covered up there's so

1894
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:55,760
many

1895
01:20:02,390 --> 01:19:58,880
files that are buried on top of

1896
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:02,400
someone's desk somewhere and

1897
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:05,280
the public is hungry to know what really

1898
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:06,880
happened

1899
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:10,159
yeah what was uh interesting um

1900
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,480
was that with the retraction that

1901
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:14,159
happened the next day

1902
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:18,560
we were so close i mean so close

1903
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:21,600
to the truth right and then

1904
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,600
the retraction happened and from that

1905
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,199
point forward

1906
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:28,239
it seemed that the government the fbi

1907
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:30,080
uh all the way up to the white house and

1908
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:32,080
certainly the air force

1909
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:35,360
now had a way of covering

1910
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:39,679
up the story and it hasn't changed in in

1911
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:42,080
75 years

1912
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,159
oh you're right before it was weather

1913
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:46,400
balloons and now we have drones

1914
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:49,360
as the cover-up well which takes me to

1915
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:50,080
my

1916
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:02,870
us are them who's them them being them

1917
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,510
black triangles it's not something that

1918
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:11,120
i've really done a lot of research on

1919
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:14,000
something that i really know about okay

1920
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:14,400
and

1921
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:18,880
along

1922
01:21:21,910 --> 01:21:20,320
the guy that you want to talk to is

1923
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:21,920
david marlar and

1924
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:24,000
and his book black triangles is is

1925
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:25,040
incredible

1926
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,000
but what what ended up happening and

1927
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:30,560
you've heard of the tr-3b

1928
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:33,920
uh the there was a wave

1929
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:37,120
in the 80s of black triangle sightings

1930
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,199
in belgium

1931
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:41,520
which also happened in the uk but of

1932
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:42,880
course it goes back

1933
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:45,440
in the united states here all the way

1934
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:47,679
back to the rhodes photographs of 1947

1935
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,639
in phoenix

1936
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:50,320
i think that clearly shows a black

1937
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,000
triangle but there were

1938
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:54,719
uh black triangles that were cited uh

1939
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:56,320
throughout history

1940
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:58,719
but now it's become more of a modern

1941
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:00,159
phenomenon

1942
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:03,199
and so i'm wondering

1943
01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:06,880
if the black triangles well some may be

1944
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:10,320
e.t but i think some of them most of

1945
01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:10,800
them

1946
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:17,189
i think that's very possible they can

1947
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:20,400
completely be man-made and if anything

1948
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,880
i think that they could be ours i do

1949
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:24,000
know about the um

1950
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:25,760
belgium sightings and i have seen

1951
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,080
pictures and

1952
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:30,719
by the looks of it it is possible for

1953
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:32,320
them to be ours and think of it like

1954
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:32,960
this

1955
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:36,639
it would be so much easier for

1956
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,719
people that have this kind of knowledge

1957
01:22:41,189 --> 01:22:40,400
i don't want to be pumped out to the

1958
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:41,199
public

1959
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:44,960
to easily push it to saying it's

1960
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:48,080
its aliens and not really

1961
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,560
the united states or whatever country

1962
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:51,520
conducting

1963
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:54,159
these kinds of experiments on this kind

1964
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,560
of technology

1965
01:23:00,070 --> 01:22:58,159
that's a that's what i think it's it's

1966
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,080
merely an opinion

1967
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,800
but just to clarify these um black

1968
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,880
triangles that you're talking about

1969
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:06,719
are they the ones with the red lights on

1970
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:09,120
the edge no there's those and there's

1971
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:12,239
uh white lights that have been reported

1972
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:13,040
on each

1973
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:16,880
corner what i find interesting though

1974
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:20,000
is that quite possibly and

1975
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,040
again this is just my opinion but some

1976
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,120
may have been extraterrestrial

1977
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:27,600
did we capture a craft did we backwards

1978
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:28,239
engineer

1979
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:31,840
it did we then replicate that technology

1980
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:34,960
into what may be the tr-3b

1981
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:41,030
sure one thing that i am pretty

1982
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:42,159
confident about

1983
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:45,120
is the sightings have been everywhere

1984
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:47,199
you know i had my own i took a picture

1985
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:48,159
of one

1986
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:50,880
and i still can't uh explain it and when

1987
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:53,280
i show that picture to friends

1988
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:54,880
they have the same reaction it's like

1989
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:56,880
holy crap what is that

1990
01:24:02,629 --> 01:23:59,280
i don't know i don't know if it's us or

1991
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:02,639
them but the phenomenon itself is real

1992
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:05,440
absolutely okay let's go to number four

1993
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:08,159
gotta i got a long list here

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01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:17,910
what a story yes what a story and the

1995
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:18,560
fact

1996
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:21,840
that one of the officials was

1997
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:25,520
able to jot down what he was seeing

1998
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:29,760
was able to write the language or

1999
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:33,199
or the topography in his journal

2000
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:36,400
is huge well

2001
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,719
i love that story yeah it is and it's

2002
01:24:43,189 --> 01:24:39,440
modern

2003
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:43,199
even though it was 1980 81 christmas

2004
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:46,320
um everybody's still alive

2005
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:49,679
right and this is a military case and

2006
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,320
we are still able to uh speak with an

2007
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:54,560
interview all of the witnesses

2008
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:58,320
um who you know and this is

2009
01:25:01,750 --> 01:24:59,760
another fascinating part about

2010
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:01,760
rendleshim is

2011
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:04,880
we have a general agreement

2012
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:06,560
with the witnesses of who was there and

2013
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:08,320
who saw what

2014
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,560
and they don't agree on anything but

2015
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:12,560
they they were all there

2016
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,199
i i just i i find that uh to be one of

2017
01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:17,120
the most fascinating cases

2018
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:19,920
um okay it is and then the fact that uh

2019
01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:22,159
james fox covered it too was really

2020
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:23,440
interesting for those that are not

2021
01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:25,040
familiar

2022
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:32,470
that's really funny that you bring that

2023
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:35,440
up because that's a convert that's the

2024
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:36,960
mysteries with the history show i'm

2025
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:38,480
doing tomorrow

2026
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:41,600
men in black okay which means your

2027
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,480
research is

2028
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,080
is is completed so what do you it's not

2029
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:47,920
completed

2030
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:54,400
i i i've had what i think is a men in

2031
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:55,840
black story

2032
01:26:02,390 --> 01:25:59,040
and it it's really strange

2033
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:02,400
how there seems to be a men in black

2034
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:05,840
uh episode with so many of the

2035
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:09,440
the major cases and and events that have

2036
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:11,199
happened over the years

2037
01:26:19,030 --> 01:26:16,709
it's a lot of speculation it's a lot of

2038
01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:19,040
eyewitness accounts there's very

2039
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:21,840
little written data on it that's at

2040
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:22,480
least

2041
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:24,560
open to the public but it's not

2042
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:25,920
something that i've completed

2043
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:27,360
researching but i will

2044
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:30,800
be prepared by tomorrow to be able to

2045
01:26:34,830 --> 01:26:33,520
talk about the men in black and let me

2046
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:34,840
kind of

2047
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,920
explain mysteries with the history to

2048
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:39,840
why i do this because

2049
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:41,679
when it comes to the paranormal when it

2050
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:44,239
comes to the ufo topic

2051
01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:48,000
again this is such a broad

2052
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,239
a broad feel that it's very difficult to

2053
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:55,040
pinpoint your research so when i have

2054
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:56,080
these

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01:27:02,790 --> 01:26:59,760
shows it really makes it for me

2056
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:02,800
a strict curriculum to be able to do the

2057
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:03,360
research

2058
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:07,360
and to present it to the public

2059
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:11,040
what i think this is merely opinion

2060
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:14,080
on what the men in black could be

2061
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:17,679
is there have been cases

2062
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:21,199
going back to the to the 1940s right

2063
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:24,159
they're government agents could they be

2064
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:25,199
government agents

2065
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:27,760
could they be aliens could they be

2066
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:28,560
hybrids

2067
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:31,840
there are so many conspiracies so many

2068
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:33,040
theories

2069
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:36,239
on what these men in black are because

2070
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:39,280
they don't match um

2071
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,320
normal human behavior for example why

2072
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,400
are they all bald

2073
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,800
and like that that that's my big

2074
01:27:49,130 --> 01:27:47,840
question

2075
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:49,140
why are they all bald

2076
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,040
[Laughter]

2077
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:53,520
i uh we're we're going to be headed

2078
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:55,360
towards a break here

2079
01:28:01,750 --> 01:27:58,560
i had a my own a

2080
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:01,760
little experience and and it i

2081
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:04,960
found it very very strange but

2082
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:08,080
the point that uh i've

2083
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,040
i've often made with my own experience

2084
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:13,360
is that

2085
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:17,199
it's real and and and i mean this in a

2086
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:19,440
very serious sense when somebody says

2087
01:28:22,229 --> 01:28:20,880
they've had a sighting and somebody

2088
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:22,239
comes and knocks on their door or

2089
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:24,159
they've got a car across the street and

2090
01:28:28,310 --> 01:28:25,440
they're being watched

2091
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:28,320
well i went through that i went i you

2092
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:28,639
know

2093
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:31,920
i went through that and uh i was a

2094
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:33,280
little bit offensive

2095
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:36,400
about it um i i slammed the door

2096
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:39,840
twice um on them but

2097
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,199
i walked away thinking man

2098
01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:45,040
these people aren't crazy you know when

2099
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:46,719
you hear these stories

2100
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:49,920
of about this and then you go through it

2101
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:51,600
yourself that's when you have to step

2102
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:52,400
back and go

2103
01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,159
you know how much of this actually goes

2104
01:28:59,350 --> 01:28:56,080
on uh who are they

2105
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,360
what's the intention and and

2106
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:01,920
uh you have to when somebody talks about

2107
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:03,679
something like this you really

2108
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:05,040
have to listen to them you can't

2109
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:08,080
discount these experiences

2110
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:10,000
right it's as they say seeing as

2111
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:11,440
believing when you have your own

2112
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:13,679
experiences when you begin to believe

2113
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:16,080
that these things are happening and the

2114
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:17,280
men in black

2115
01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:20,480
is is a phenomenon we we don't know

2116
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,960
what they are it leads to so many more

2117
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:24,560
questions of what they could

2118
01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:27,440
possibly be is there some kind of

2119
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,840
connection with the black-eyed kids or

2120
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:31,440
with shadow people

2121
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:33,760
or again with aliens hybrids are they

2122
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:34,960
some kind of government

2123
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:39,360
agent there are countless questions

2124
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,320
the question is who has the answers well

2125
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:44,960
you're going to be walking around campus

2126
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:47,199
and you're going to go oh man that car

2127
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:48,320
has been there

2128
01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:52,800
all week all week it's gonna happen i'm

2129
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:53,679
telling you

2130
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:55,120
right now the next time you're on fade

2131
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:57,199
to black jimmy i got a men in black

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01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:57,760
story

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01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:01,440
our break right here this

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is fade to black i am your host jimmy

2135
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:05,199
church our guest tonight christina gomez

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of the debris i'm only five

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in on a very long list we will continue

2138
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all of this

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when we come back after this short break

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i'm real jimmy church this is fade to

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host jimmy church tonight christina

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gomez of the debrief is with us for the

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now christina this is the deal

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2242
01:35:25,109 --> 01:35:22,960
always um fresh faces fresh voices

2243
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:25,119
and the next generation coming up

2244
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:26,400
because i was

2245
01:35:33,430 --> 01:35:30,639
i was one at some point myself

2246
01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:33,440
um and then we have what has gone on

2247
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:35,520
over the last three years and i think

2248
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:36,480
that

2249
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,000
um what tom delong and ttsa did

2250
01:35:43,430 --> 01:35:42,880
uh you know him being a a singer and a

2251
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:43,440
in a

2252
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:53,199
load of of uh

2253
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:55,440
a larger audience for ufology and i

2254
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:57,520
thought that that was great

2255
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:00,639
but here we are three years later and i

2256
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:02,480
think that

2257
01:36:08,390 --> 01:36:05,520
in in my opinion that today

2258
01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:08,400
everything is instant everything is now

2259
01:36:11,590 --> 01:36:08,800
um

2260
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:11,600
everybody wants everything now and and

2261
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:12,480
and i get that

2262
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:16,000
i'm i do that too but here we are three

2263
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:16,960
years later

2264
01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:20,800
and ttsa is no longer part of the game

2265
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:24,560
and did did that deflate

2266
01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:28,080
some of the enthusiasm of of this new

2267
01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:30,159
generation coming into ufology

2268
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:33,440
the expectations were there and

2269
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:36,480
some things just went away can you speak

2270
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:38,560
for your generation on that

2271
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:41,119
i can only speak for myself uh not for

2272
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:42,639
my generation but i

2273
01:36:47,669 --> 01:36:46,880
will say is that i'm so excited for the

2274
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:47,679
time

2275
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,639
that we live in currently with the

2276
01:36:55,669 --> 01:36:52,719
internet with tv shows with

2277
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:55,679
instant messaging like you said i'm

2278
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:56,560
learning

2279
01:37:02,470 --> 01:36:59,600
interested in this topic

2280
01:37:03,350 --> 01:37:02,480
in the internet age where you have

2281
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:03,360
information

2282
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:07,280
at your fingertips and myself personally

2283
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:10,480
personally i'm standing on the shoulder

2284
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:10,800
of

2285
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:14,080
giants giants as in pioneers

2286
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:16,480
those that are so knowledgeable in the

2287
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:17,280
topic

2288
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:20,400
those that have walked through mud

2289
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:23,920
been ridiculed been laughed at and

2290
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:27,040
helped make this topic more into the

2291
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:28,000
mainstream

2292
01:37:31,990 --> 01:37:30,480
one of them being who is a more present

2293
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:32,000
day pioneer or even

2294
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:36,800
trooper is lou elizondo

2295
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:40,159
this man is on the news

2296
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:42,480
every single day i'm not i'm not

2297
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:44,159
familiar with lou

2298
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:48,159
tell me about lou who's lou

2299
01:37:55,350 --> 01:37:51,199
lou luis should i say luis elizondo

2300
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:55,360
but he goes by lou but he

2301
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:58,000
he's a guy that is on the media every

2302
01:38:02,310 --> 01:37:58,800
single day

2303
01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:02,320
he goes on to any podcast that invites

2304
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:02,960
him over

2305
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:05,840
he has no bias to these people he

2306
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:07,199
respects all of them

2307
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:09,679
equally and that he'll he'll talk to

2308
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:11,840
anyone if you're a nobody or if you're a

2309
01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:12,639
somebody

2310
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,679
he just wants to get that conversation

2311
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:17,520
out there and he just gives and gives

2312
01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:19,840
and gives and doesn't ask for

2313
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:23,360
anything in return except to ask

2314
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:26,880
questions to start the movement of

2315
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:29,600
of talking to our congressmen talking to

2316
01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:30,719
our representatives

2317
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:33,199
to make this topic more mainstream and

2318
01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:35,199
my generation is generally

2319
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:38,239
caught up in the entertainment industry

2320
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:40,960
they want to know about what kanye west

2321
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:43,199
west posted or what the kardashians are

2322
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:45,280
doing and they're sticking their heads

2323
01:38:49,189 --> 01:38:46,560
in their phones

2324
01:38:50,870 --> 01:38:49,199
watching tick tock for the whole day

2325
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:50,880
instead of asking

2326
01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:54,159
some really important questions such as

2327
01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:56,480
what's life out there in the universe

2328
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:58,560
and those kinds of questions

2329
01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:01,440
pique our curiosity create beautiful

2330
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:02,480
artists

2331
01:39:09,030 --> 01:39:06,320
scientists senators generals teachers

2332
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:09,040
it's by asking those questions by having

2333
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:09,440
just

2334
01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:12,880
a slight piece of curiosity

2335
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:15,920
that can make our generation

2336
01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:19,840
flourish and inherent inherit the land

2337
01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:21,600
that our forefathers have

2338
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:24,320
bestowed upon us and to make it better

2339
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:26,719
than how we received it

2340
01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:29,440
well uh well okay and we're gonna

2341
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:30,320
continue

2342
01:39:38,390 --> 01:39:33,600
with that in in just a second but

2343
01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:38,400
are you surprised about tom delonge

2344
01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:41,679
his silence right there

2345
01:39:48,310 --> 01:39:44,960
he's he started this this movement

2346
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:48,320
and and now he's he's not here

2347
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:51,760
when the uaptf report was released

2348
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:53,679
and and lou is making these great

2349
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:57,760
strides but we're not hearing from tom

2350
01:40:02,470 --> 01:40:00,560
what do you make of that it is a bit

2351
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:02,480
curious but it's not something that i've

2352
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:04,080
really focused on because there are

2353
01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:06,159
so many other things that have captured

2354
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:08,000
my attention such as things that are

2355
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:10,000
hitting the news every day such as

2356
01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:12,719
people delivering versus those that are

2357
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:14,480
staying behind the shadows and not

2358
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:15,280
speaking

2359
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:18,239
it's just not something that i've looked

2360
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:19,360
deeply in or

2361
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:22,560
when it comes to tom de even considered

2362
01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:32,070
well played well played christina um

2363
01:40:39,310 --> 01:40:35,520
okay i'm just gonna let that go um

2364
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:39,320
but now let's let's let's talk about the

2365
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:40,960
uaptf

2366
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:43,600
uh the report was released on a june

2367
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:44,400
25th

2368
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:48,000
a great fanfare the build up uh you

2369
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:49,280
covered it

2370
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:51,840
um what did you what was your first

2371
01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:52,719
reaction

2372
01:40:58,950 --> 01:40:56,000
when you when you read those nine pages

2373
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:58,960
i was actually out of town the day that

2374
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:01,440
it was dropped in a location with no

2375
01:41:07,510 --> 01:41:04,800
internet i went camping with my family

2376
01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:07,520
and i you know when it comes to a latin

2377
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:08,320
family

2378
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:09,920
you have to follow the rules when it

2379
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:12,480
comes to them and you cannot really

2380
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,960
uh say i know i can't come they're like

2381
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:16,560
nope nope nope you're coming or that's

2382
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:17,040
it

2383
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:20,159
and i said okay i guess i'll be there so

2384
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:22,800
when i got back a few days after the

2385
01:41:26,390 --> 01:41:24,400
report was dropped i think

2386
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,400
five days later i was already behind i

2387
01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:28,239
was already old news

2388
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:31,600
but when i read those

2389
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,199
nine pages it met my expectations

2390
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:37,520
from the very beginning because this

2391
01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:39,440
this has been a topic that's been

2392
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:42,639
talked about for 180 days by

2393
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:45,360
every single person who has a podcast

2394
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:47,840
and every time i said

2395
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:51,199
it was going to be a preliminary

2396
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:53,440
report and what was the first page it

2397
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:55,280
said preliminary

2398
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:58,800
report and in my opinion this is

2399
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:01,920
merely an opinion six months is

2400
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:05,760
not enough time to give the public or

2401
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:06,239
even

2402
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:09,040
congress a sufficient amount of

2403
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,080
information

2404
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:12,320
you're working with the u.s navy you're

2405
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:13,679
working with the dod

2406
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:15,280
right the department of defense you're

2407
01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:17,040
working with the pentagon and

2408
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:20,239
so many others and with all of these

2409
01:42:24,390 --> 01:42:21,920
departments they all have their own

2410
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:24,400
checks and balances in order to

2411
01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:27,119
in order to accomplish the goal this is

2412
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:28,400
just my opinion

2413
01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:31,920
so every single department has to

2414
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:33,520
write a request then the other

2415
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:35,040
department has to

2416
01:42:39,030 --> 01:42:37,360
receive the request and authorize to

2417
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:39,040
give the information back

2418
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:42,400
that takes weeks that takes a long

2419
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:43,440
period of time

2420
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:52,390
to solve all 144

2421
01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:56,080
cases only one was solved out of all

2422
01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:58,239
of them in that report and there are

2423
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:00,560
multiple reasons to why that could

2424
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:04,880
possibly be was it possible that

2425
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:06,880
they're giving out the truth by omission

2426
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:08,560
saying well we really don't know what it

2427
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:11,679
is so that means it's aliens

2428
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:15,360
i don't know could it could it be the

2429
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:17,679
could it be the domestic developmental

2430
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:19,360
princes

2431
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,199
these are kind of like your black

2432
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:23,520
projects that only people that have

2433
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:25,840
incredibly high clearance

2434
01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,760
knows about it but those that are in

2435
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:29,600
congress or even those that are

2436
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:32,239
writing this report in the pentagon

2437
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:33,199
might not have

2438
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:34,719
any of this information about these

2439
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:37,199
black projects so they would classify

2440
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:40,080
it as a ufo they simply don't know

2441
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:41,520
what's going on

2442
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:44,159
or another reason could be that it was a

2443
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:44,800
near

2444
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:49,280
peer spy program so it's possible that

2445
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:50,960
and we've already we've heard this a

2446
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:53,199
hundred times that it could be

2447
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:55,679
adversary technology either from russia

2448
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:56,960
or from china

2449
01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:59,040
and they're coming and they're they're

2450
01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:01,119
spying in our airspace

2451
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:04,560
across the globe this being a complete

2452
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:06,320
security threat

2453
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:08,719
which then if people know about it the

2454
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:10,320
congress or those in the government know

2455
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:11,040
about it

2456
01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:13,840
can fund it right and then create

2457
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:16,159
technology that tries to match

2458
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,600
theirs but that would also be covered by

2459
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:21,920
covered from the public being another

2460
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:24,159
black project trying to compete

2461
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,199
with the other countries or

2462
01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:30,000
it really could be aliens

2463
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:31,119
interdimensionals

2464
01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:33,760
or even another civilization that we are

2465
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:34,639
sharing

2466
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:37,840
with on this planet

2467
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:40,719
six months was not enough time to answer

2468
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:43,520
any of these questions

2469
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:46,880
um the buildup

2470
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,040
out there in the twitterverse and in

2471
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,880
social media and certainly even in the

2472
01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:52,239
mass media

2473
01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:55,440
but uh specifically in social media

2474
01:45:00,830 --> 01:44:58,080
that here it is right disclosure it's

2475
01:45:02,149 --> 01:45:00,840
gonna happen on on june 25th with this

2476
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:02,159
report and

2477
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:05,440
in this society of of

2478
01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:08,800
everything being so fast today and

2479
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,760
uh you know instant uh gratification and

2480
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:13,920
and stuff

2481
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,280
is is the letdown of what the

2482
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:19,920
expectations were of this report

2483
01:45:25,109 --> 01:45:22,960
will it uh remove some of

2484
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:25,119
some of the energy that is out there in

2485
01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:26,400
social media

2486
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:29,600
with disclosure people had their

2487
01:45:34,149 --> 01:45:31,760
expectations too high and especially

2488
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:34,159
from the government

2489
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:35,840
people were hoping that they would

2490
01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:37,199
disclose

2491
01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:40,639
aliens but can you really believe

2492
01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:42,880
that the government or those writing

2493
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:45,199
this report would actually

2494
01:45:49,750 --> 01:45:47,679
do that i think these people that were

2495
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:49,760
hyping it that were really excited

2496
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:52,080
simply just had their expectations a

2497
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:54,159
little bit too high

2498
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:56,639
now would that stop the drive for

2499
01:46:03,189 --> 01:45:59,199
finding the truth or for losing hope

2500
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:03,199
i disagree like luis elizondo has said

2501
01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:06,480
this is a marathon it's not a sprint

2502
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:09,520
we've been fighting for seven decades 70

2503
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:10,080
years

2504
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:12,400
another year or two is not going to make

2505
01:46:16,709 --> 01:46:13,119
a difference

2506
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:16,719
again this report said preliminary

2507
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:19,600
that should give the public hope because

2508
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:20,320
that means

2509
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:23,600
another report is going to follow do you

2510
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:25,600
expect uh

2511
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:30,000
hearings in congress or the senate

2512
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:32,400
i hope so i'm open-minded to the

2513
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:33,440
possibility

2514
01:46:38,229 --> 01:46:36,639
do i have a definite yes or no i simply

2515
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:38,239
don't have those kinds of connections to

2516
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:40,080
say one or the other but i really do

2517
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:43,840
hope that that does happen which brings

2518
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:47,280
me to the tic tac to go fast in the

2519
01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:49,440
gimbal videos

2520
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:52,639
let's uh let's focus in a general sense

2521
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:53,040
all

2522
01:46:58,470 --> 01:46:55,679
three you've watched them countless

2523
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:58,480
times like we all have

2524
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:00,159
what do you think what do you think what

2525
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:06,470
well like for many others that um like

2526
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:09,600
to analyze this footage you're obviously

2527
01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:10,800
looking at exhaust

2528
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:13,600
you're looking at the kind of the kind

2529
01:47:19,350 --> 01:47:15,920
of maneuver that it's doing

2530
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:19,360
but also for some people

2531
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:21,920
they allow their bias or their opinion

2532
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:22,719
to

2533
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,159
understand

2534
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,719
what these things could possibly be bias

2535
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:29,920
either believing that they are

2536
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:31,280
completely aliens

2537
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:34,800
or the bias of being a debunker

2538
01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:37,440
and not a skeptic and trying to prove it

2539
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:37,920
wrong

2540
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:41,679
regardless of the evidence that is found

2541
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,040
i'm a hundred percent open minded

2542
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:47,679
on what they could be again i'm i'm no

2543
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:48,880
specialist

2544
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:51,040
i'm brand new to the topic i love the

2545
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:52,400
ufo topic

2546
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:55,840
but my opinions are merely

2547
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:58,000
opinions and well that's what i want

2548
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:58,960
what does that have

2549
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:00,719
yep yep and that's what i want is your

2550
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:02,560
opinion

2551
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:06,080
see when okay if i

2552
01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:10,159
if anybody hadn't suggested

2553
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:13,199
that these were ufos or e.t

2554
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,920
right that that is part of the bias that

2555
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:17,679
is immediately there

2556
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:20,080
right when you when you say oh these are

2557
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:22,080
ufos then you see the video you're going

2558
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:23,760
to see a ufo

2559
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:26,960
but if you're not told that this is ufo

2560
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:29,600
right so in your opinion when you're

2561
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:30,400
looking at these

2562
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,080
does it feel et ish

2563
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:36,000
or do you think it's us yeah let's start

2564
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:37,199
with the tic tac

2565
01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:40,320
the tic tac shape is

2566
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:43,520
almost impossible

2567
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:47,280
in the way and how it flies the shape is

2568
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:48,480
almost impossible

2569
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:51,920
to our minds today what what what we

2570
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:52,560
think

2571
01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:55,600
i mean they're a pill but also kind of

2572
01:49:02,390 --> 01:48:59,199
similar to some cigar-shaped crafts that

2573
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:02,400
have been seen for decades

2574
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:05,679
so it leads me to the question do you

2575
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:06,480
think maybe

2576
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:09,440
tic tacs are just smaller versions of

2577
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:12,159
cigar crafts

2578
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:14,080
could be i don't know yeah yeah could be

2579
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:16,159
could be um

2580
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:18,320
uh with the tic tac do you think that

2581
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:20,080
the tic tac is moving

2582
01:49:27,510 --> 01:49:23,520
in the tic tac video yes

2583
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:27,520
you do yes and i just it just blows my

2584
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:29,360
mind with the shape and how it's even

2585
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:30,480
able to fly

2586
01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:33,040
right right right well what supports the

2587
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:33,679
tic tac

2588
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:36,080
video for me is is the testimony of

2589
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:37,119
david fravor

2590
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,480
and uh of course alex dietrich um that's

2591
01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:41,679
what supports

2592
01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:45,440
what we're seeing in the tic tac video

2593
01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:48,159
um let's let's go with the go fast now

2594
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:48,719
uh

2595
01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:52,400
also a very interesting video um

2596
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:56,480
do you feel that is etish

2597
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:00,960
i think it's possible why i think it's

2598
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,119
just look at it just look at it it's

2599
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:05,040
some it's something that our minds

2600
01:50:08,149 --> 01:50:07,599
right at least in the public eye don't

2601
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:08,159
think

2602
01:50:12,629 --> 01:50:11,199
it can be replicated

2603
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:12,639
now does that mean that it can't be

2604
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,239
reverse engineered

2605
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:16,800
no it's possible that somehow our

2606
01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:17,679
military

2607
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:21,360
has has hands on the technology and

2608
01:50:28,709 --> 01:50:24,400
testing it or it really could

2609
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:28,719
be ets that are in the water

2610
01:50:35,109 --> 01:50:31,760
the water is such an unexplored

2611
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:35,119
area that that if i

2612
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:38,080
were a military official and i wanted to

2613
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:39,440
test

2614
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:42,400
private technology where would i go i

2615
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:43,440
would test it

2616
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:46,719
in the ocean where there's absolutely no

2617
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:47,520
witnesses

2618
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:54,080
are you suggesting it's our technology

2619
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,440
that we're testing out there in the

2620
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:57,679
ocean

2621
01:51:02,629 --> 01:51:00,960
it's a possibility yeah again i'm i'm no

2622
01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:02,639
specialist no i like that

2623
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:05,119
uneducated guests i like that take i

2624
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:06,159
like that take

2625
01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:09,199
now uh the gimbal video which

2626
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:12,159
is probably one of the most contested

2627
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:14,000
out of all of these

2628
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:17,040
um we've seen it it i mean how many

2629
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:17,840
times have

2630
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:21,440
it's it's everywhere um

2631
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:27,109
it's one of my favorites it's it's so

2632
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:33,669
and and it goes back to the first two

2633
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:36,000
things i've already stated

2634
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:39,119
it could be us or it really could

2635
01:51:44,390 --> 01:51:42,239
be alien but what i found

2636
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:44,400
weird is that it just starts shifting

2637
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:46,320
its position you know slowing down

2638
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:50,159
and like like a spinning top that

2639
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:52,639
i don't think is very common when we do

2640
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:53,520
think of

2641
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:57,360
ufos yeah when i first saw it

2642
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:00,159
um i didn't know what i was looking at

2643
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:02,719
exactly yeah i i really didn't

2644
01:52:06,709 --> 01:52:05,760
and and i was uh very confused i think

2645
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:06,719
the jury is still

2646
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:10,000
out on all of them i i i

2647
01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:12,960
don't know which direction to go you

2648
01:52:15,910 --> 01:52:13,280
know

2649
01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:15,920
everybody has has their own opinions you

2650
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:16,880
know mick west

2651
01:52:20,390 --> 01:52:19,199
uh who has been a guest on the show and

2652
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:20,400
in his research

2653
01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:23,920
and in in my eyes you know i don't know

2654
01:52:27,910 --> 01:52:24,719
and what i've

2655
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:27,920
what i find very interesting is

2656
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:30,480
there is you know millions of people

2657
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:32,480
have looked at these videos

2658
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:35,920
and they're okay with the et approach on

2659
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:36,480
this

2660
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,560
so who am i to second guess you know

2661
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,080
millions of people

2662
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:42,560
my eyes tell me something different i

2663
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:44,560
don't know i don't know i don't know

2664
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:46,080
we live we live in a beautiful age

2665
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,320
especially today as of

2666
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:50,159
july 5th that we can have these

2667
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:51,760
conversations and not be laughed at and

2668
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:52,800
actually be taken

2669
01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:56,239
seriously and when these videos came out

2670
01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:00,000
right in 2017 until present day

2671
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:03,440
these are being seen by pilots

2672
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:06,080
those that we need to trust caught on

2673
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:07,520
camera doing these

2674
01:53:12,310 --> 01:53:10,639
absolute crazy things so the fact that

2675
01:53:13,430 --> 01:53:12,320
we're able to talk about it today that

2676
01:53:17,189 --> 01:53:13,440
millions of people can

2677
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:17,199
watch it that it's also public knowledge

2678
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:19,280
and the pentagon saying we don't know

2679
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:20,320
what they are

2680
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:23,679
is is really exciting now

2681
01:53:28,629 --> 01:53:26,080
what did you uh i want to go back to the

2682
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:28,639
uap task force report

2683
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:31,360
what did you make of uh because like it

2684
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:33,280
or not you're a member of the media now

2685
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:36,400
uh you work for the debrief um what did

2686
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:37,679
you what did you make of

2687
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:41,760
the mass media and i would say that a

2688
01:53:49,629 --> 01:53:45,679
general um the word i'm going to use

2689
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,639
is pooh-poohing that they discounted the

2690
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:51,440
uaptf report

2691
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:54,080
and they didn't really pull any punches

2692
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,960
on that

2693
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:56,719
were you surprised at the reaction with

2694
01:54:02,550 --> 01:53:59,440
the mass media

2695
01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:02,560
no why no i wasn't well

2696
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:04,880
we know with the mass media they talk

2697
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:06,800
about things that are trending they talk

2698
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:07,199
about

2699
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:10,880
hot topics and if it was believed that

2700
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:13,760
this topic is now being back into some

2701
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:14,880
kind of ridicule

2702
01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:16,639
they're gonna jump on it they're gonna

2703
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:18,239
jump on it regardless of what these

2704
01:54:21,589 --> 01:54:20,320
of what the people that are reporting it

2705
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:21,599
actually

2706
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:24,000
think and i think currently and again

2707
01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:26,320
this is merely an opinion

2708
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:29,440
a lot of these media outlets the the

2709
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:30,800
mainstream ones

2710
01:54:37,589 --> 01:54:34,480
have lost a lot of their credibility

2711
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:37,599
so whatever they say yes a good a good

2712
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:39,040
amount of people are going to listen to

2713
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,080
them

2714
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:41,840
but there will also be a sufficient

2715
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:44,080
amount that have lost their trust

2716
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:46,000
in these media outlets on whatever they

2717
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:47,679
may talk about

2718
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:50,320
well the the mass media i was very

2719
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:52,400
surprised over the last three years to

2720
01:54:57,189 --> 01:54:54,080
see this shift

2721
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:57,199
in in covering uh the ufo uap

2722
01:55:02,629 --> 01:55:00,400
question and and it was constant

2723
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:02,639
and it was it was really cool i was very

2724
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,679
happy

2725
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:05,520
and then yeah and then they had the

2726
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:06,800
opportunity to

2727
01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:09,360
uh to analyze and really take a close

2728
01:55:14,229 --> 01:55:12,080
look at the uae ptf report and what it

2729
01:55:17,830 --> 01:55:14,239
could actually mean

2730
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:17,840
and they they just seem to to flip off

2731
01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:19,199
flip the switch back in

2732
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:21,599
the other direction i was i was very

2733
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,119
surprised with that

2734
01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:26,159
of course it's it's disappointing but

2735
01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:28,239
it's through these kinds of radio

2736
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:30,000
stations podcasts

2737
01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:32,400
people having these conversations on the

2738
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:33,440
daily

2739
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:35,440
are the people that are making the

2740
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:37,040
difference that are

2741
01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:40,000
i truly believe more educated than those

2742
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,520
that you might hear

2743
01:55:44,629 --> 01:55:42,960
these reporters that you'll hear on the

2744
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:44,639
news that are merely reading a script

2745
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,000
and i don't know if they really

2746
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:48,159
understand what they're saying that's

2747
01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:50,080
why they bring on people such as lou

2748
01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:50,960
elizondo

2749
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:54,159
to help educate the people on things

2750
01:55:58,390 --> 01:55:55,599
that they simply

2751
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:58,400
don't know about do you think that we're

2752
01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:00,000
going to see continuing coverage

2753
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,360
with with with tucker and fox as we move

2754
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:04,960
forward

2755
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:07,360
i hope with all media outlets but i

2756
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:08,400
don't know

2757
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:11,040
yeah yeah i'm very i'm very i'm very

2758
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:12,239
curious

2759
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,840
you know it seemed like the door was

2760
01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:15,679
cracked open there for about three years

2761
01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:17,280
and it was a lot of fun

2762
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:20,800
um uh to ride that out uh now we have

2763
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:21,840
but now we have

2764
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:24,800
countless countless podcasts on youtube

2765
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:26,080
on spotify

2766
01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:28,639
on all of these outlets that are talking

2767
01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:29,920
about it so even though you might not

2768
01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:32,480
have fox news or cnn talking about it

2769
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:35,920
there are hundreds of others that are so

2770
01:56:39,109 --> 01:56:37,360
all those people that they're reaching

2771
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:39,119
with one outlet

2772
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:41,280
those hundred podcasts can reach the

2773
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,800
same amount of people

2774
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,800
i wanted to ask you about neil degrasse

2775
01:56:51,589 --> 01:56:47,199
tyson really quick before the break

2776
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:51,599
um his reaction to the ua ptf report

2777
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:54,159
i thought was very interesting uh where

2778
01:57:00,629 --> 01:56:55,119
he

2779
01:57:01,750 --> 01:57:00,639
around with his 14 million followers on

2780
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:01,760
twitter

2781
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:05,520
says that e.t it's your imagination

2782
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:08,159
right discounting david fraver and alex

2783
01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:08,960
dietrich and

2784
01:57:16,070 --> 01:57:12,480
and the other uh testimony that is uh

2785
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:16,080
uh been out there and any type of

2786
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:19,360
uh uh evidence that has been presented

2787
01:57:24,229 --> 01:57:22,080
and he chose to use his sphere of

2788
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:24,239
influence very quickly

2789
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:27,679
and and read the uap tf report in his

2790
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:31,199
own in his own way

2791
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:38,550
it's not something i've i didn't really

2792
01:57:41,350 --> 01:57:39,520
look at him

2793
01:57:42,950 --> 01:57:41,360
um when it came when he talked about

2794
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,960
this report but he's a skeptic you know

2795
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:44,639
he's a he's a scientist

2796
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:47,760
and it's in his job interest

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to to talk about it the way that he did

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yeah yeah yeah that's a good point you

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are a communications major

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you're going places and the biggest

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thing was that he was playing it safe

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you know he's still a huge

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public figure i i believe and i'm i'm

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just guessing that he's a contracted

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right so he has to keep his

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image i mean he's on the show cosmos

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right it's a

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very well viewed show it's one that i

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like as well when it comes to just

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the basic understanding of space but

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when he talks about aliens um it it's

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it's i guess in his field still somewhat

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a taboo topic yeah well

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01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:31,520
you know he he's trying to uh

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in cosmos he spent episode after

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episode after episode about the search

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for alien life and what could be

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out there and intelligent life and

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you know he speaks about it and then it

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turns around and

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it you know and says but but they can't

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be here

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you know i it's it's just i don't know i

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don't know let's take our break right

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here christine you just

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christina you just stay right there this

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is fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church when we come

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back i'm gonna go

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i'm gonna go into uh uh

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inter-dimensional

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i'm gonna go with uh the classic ufo

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hypothesis

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i'm gonna get to all of this with

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christina after this short break stay

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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and kgra the global radio alliance

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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02:04:00,709 --> 02:04:00,320
jimmy church tonight christina gomez is

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02:04:04,149 --> 02:04:00,719
here

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02:04:06,149 --> 02:04:04,159
of the debrief introducing her to the

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02:04:09,109 --> 02:04:06,159
world here we go

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02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:09,119
and uh now this is uh i want to have a

2946
02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:10,560
little bit of uh

2947
02:04:14,069 --> 02:04:13,599
fun uh during this last segment i have a

2948
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:14,079
list

2949
02:04:19,430 --> 02:04:17,119
of of stuff here that is probably a

2950
02:04:20,950 --> 02:04:19,440
little bit out of your wheelhouse

2951
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:20,960
but i just want to see what makes you

2952
02:04:24,069 --> 02:04:22,960
tick and the first thing that i want to

2953
02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:24,079
uh discuss is

2954
02:04:27,750 --> 02:04:26,639
is um how do you think they're getting

2955
02:04:31,589 --> 02:04:27,760
here

2956
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:31,599
seen some strange things

2957
02:04:34,709 --> 02:04:33,520
christina that that i that i can't

2958
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:34,719
explain

2959
02:04:38,709 --> 02:04:37,920
but i i've changed my opinion over the

2960
02:04:41,750 --> 02:04:38,719
years about

2961
02:04:44,390 --> 02:04:41,760
what is actually going on so what do you

2962
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:44,400
think how are they getting here

2963
02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:45,920
well i'm pretty sure they're not coming

2964
02:04:48,790 --> 02:04:47,440
here the conventional way through a

2965
02:04:50,709 --> 02:04:48,800
regular rocket

2966
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,719
right that would take way too long for

2967
02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:52,320
these beings even if they had

2968
02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:00,550
if we look at quantum physics

2969
02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:03,920
and and this kind of topic

2970
02:05:11,189 --> 02:05:07,119
it's possible that they could be using

2971
02:05:13,189 --> 02:05:11,199
wormholes where one spot opens

2972
02:05:14,470 --> 02:05:13,199
another one opens and they can quickly

2973
02:05:16,790 --> 02:05:14,480
travel through it

2974
02:05:18,790 --> 02:05:16,800
versus doing it the very conventional

2975
02:05:21,669 --> 02:05:18,800
way of getting on a rocket

2976
02:05:23,589 --> 02:05:21,679
going at barely light speed to your next

2977
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:23,599
planet

2978
02:05:31,990 --> 02:05:27,440
that's what i think but

2979
02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:32,000
it is somewhat an uneducated guess

2980
02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:36,239
i think whatever they're doing it's easy

2981
02:05:39,669 --> 02:05:38,000
that's what i think whatever it is

2982
02:05:42,069 --> 02:05:39,679
whatever it is if you

2983
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:42,079
if you look at things um in a

2984
02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:44,560
conventional sense here on planet earth

2985
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:48,400
right and you want a pizza delivered

2986
02:05:53,350 --> 02:05:51,040
and you pick up the phone and you call

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and have a pizza delivered

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right hot tasty right there to your door

2989
02:06:02,149 --> 02:05:59,040
30 minutes or less

2990
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:02,159
think about that 200 years ago that's

2991
02:06:08,870 --> 02:06:05,520
magic right witchcraft yeah witchcraft

2992
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:08,880
but but it's easy today getting in your

2993
02:06:12,550 --> 02:06:09,360
car

2994
02:06:14,149 --> 02:06:12,560
getting on a plane these are easy things

2995
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:14,159
for us to do when we take them for

2996
02:06:17,669 --> 02:06:14,800
granted

2997
02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:17,679
it's the same thing for e.t whatever it

2998
02:06:20,629 --> 02:06:17,920
is

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02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:20,639
however they are pulling it off and i

3000
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:21,360
don't know

3001
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:24,000
i really don't folding space bending

3002
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:24,560
space

3003
02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:28,719
wormholes black black i i have no idea i

3004
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:30,000
i really don't but whatever

3005
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:33,360
it is it's it's just easy well maybe

3006
02:06:37,030 --> 02:06:34,560
maybe they're even using another

3007
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:37,040
dimension like hyperspace certainly

3008
02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:39,760
and that that brings in another uh

3009
02:06:42,950 --> 02:06:41,760
concept you know this interdimensional

3010
02:06:47,030 --> 02:06:42,960
part of it

3011
02:06:49,109 --> 02:06:47,040
um they too many of these craft

3012
02:06:51,270 --> 02:06:49,119
appear and disappear instantly in the

3013
02:06:54,629 --> 02:06:51,280
sky i've seen it happen

3014
02:06:57,109 --> 02:06:54,639
and i can't explain that you know is it

3015
02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:57,119
is it a parallel world another dimension

3016
02:07:00,870 --> 02:06:58,239
and they're slipping

3017
02:07:01,350 --> 02:07:00,880
into it i don't know i don't know but uh

3018
02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:01,360
i like

3019
02:07:07,750 --> 02:07:07,040
whatever it is it's not jumping into a

3020
02:07:11,189 --> 02:07:07,760
starship

3021
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:11,199
and and cruising for 10 000 light years

3022
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:13,599
worth it that's a lot of snacks you

3023
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:14,400
gotta pack

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02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:16,800
that well hopefully the food is good by

3025
02:07:22,310 --> 02:07:17,520
the way

3026
02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:25,109
bigfoot bigfoot i think about

3027
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:32,950
why because that's what she said

3028
02:07:37,030 --> 02:07:35,040
you can't use what you can't use a

3029
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:37,040
previous episode of fade to black and

3030
02:07:42,310 --> 02:07:39,360
turn it around on me

3031
02:07:44,709 --> 02:07:42,320
but you know what what do you think what

3032
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:44,719
are what are people seeing out there

3033
02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:51,510
that's a pretty interesting question

3034
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:53,119
because there's a lot of tv shows

3035
02:07:55,910 --> 02:07:54,480
there's a lot of books there's a lot of

3036
02:07:59,589 --> 02:07:55,920
eyewitness accounts

3037
02:08:02,870 --> 02:07:59,599
of people having bigfoot encounters

3038
02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:02,880
and it's believed that one strand could

3039
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:03,280
be

3040
02:08:06,830 --> 02:08:06,320
from i forgot what it's called but

3041
02:08:10,229 --> 02:08:06,840
something

3042
02:08:15,430 --> 02:08:12,229
but what's it called jimmy oh i did i'm

3043
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:15,440
not an anthropologist

3044
02:08:19,270 --> 02:08:17,280
okay well hopefully people that are

3045
02:08:21,830 --> 02:08:19,280
listening understand what i'm saying

3046
02:08:23,350 --> 02:08:21,840
and and the it's even written in

3047
02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:23,360
mythology and there's a lot

3048
02:08:30,310 --> 02:08:26,400
of native american stories

3049
02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:30,320
talking about different different types

3050
02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:33,360
of bigfoot there's not just one type but

3051
02:08:36,310 --> 02:08:34,000
there are

3052
02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:36,320
multiple that have a have a different

3053
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:38,159
kind of language that looks somewhat

3054
02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:39,520
different that live in different parts

3055
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:40,719
of the world

3056
02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:42,800
so it's not just a phenomenon that's in

3057
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:44,000
the united states

3058
02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:46,880
but it's something that's global that

3059
02:08:52,149 --> 02:08:48,960
almost every country has seen

3060
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:52,159
some wear and i

3061
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:55,199
i think they're like hiding away

3062
02:09:02,550 --> 02:08:59,440
maybe they could even be an ancient race

3063
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:02,560
i like that i i i like the way you you

3064
02:09:06,149 --> 02:09:05,360
um express yourself and you think before

3065
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:06,159
you speak

3066
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:09,360
i find that it's very uh

3067
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:12,000
it's very intriguing because you don't

3068
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:14,079
want to um

3069
02:09:17,589 --> 02:09:17,199
uh how what's the way that i want to say

3070
02:09:19,189 --> 02:09:17,599
this

3071
02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:19,199
you don't want to say anything incorrect

3072
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:20,960
you think about what you say before you

3073
02:09:23,830 --> 02:09:21,840
say it

3074
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:23,840
that's uh that's pretty cool but well

3075
02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:25,199
it's being mindful

3076
02:09:29,669 --> 02:09:28,480
well okay it is it is but then there's

3077
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:29,679
the

3078
02:09:35,109 --> 02:09:33,040
ufo aspect with with bigfoot

3079
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:35,119
where there's a lot of sightings and

3080
02:09:40,870 --> 02:09:37,360
then there's a bigfoot sighting

3081
02:09:43,189 --> 02:09:40,880
right after that or right before it and

3082
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:43,199
you know the word coincidence comes into

3083
02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,719
play here

3084
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:46,800
yeah there's there's a really weird

3085
02:09:50,270 --> 02:09:49,119
aspect to that and just to mention

3086
02:09:52,629 --> 02:09:50,280
previously it's called the

3087
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:52,639
gigantopithecus gigantopithecus is one

3088
02:09:55,189 --> 02:09:54,400
of the strands of what people believe

3089
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:55,199
bigfoot to be

3090
02:09:58,470 --> 02:09:57,599
just wanted to mention that but when it

3091
02:10:02,870 --> 02:09:58,480
comes to

3092
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:02,880
ufos and bigfoot that's a really bizarre

3093
02:10:06,149 --> 02:10:05,520
concept and ufos in general a lot of ufo

3094
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:06,159
sightings

3095
02:10:10,550 --> 02:10:09,040
something paranormal is also attached in

3096
02:10:14,069 --> 02:10:10,560
some way

3097
02:10:15,750 --> 02:10:14,079
and i don't have a big opinion on why

3098
02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:15,760
this is happening i just find it

3099
02:10:18,390 --> 02:10:16,560
incredibly

3100
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:18,400
fascinating and i want to know the

3101
02:10:24,310 --> 02:10:20,320
answer but as to

3102
02:10:26,390 --> 02:10:24,320
where to look that's difficult to find

3103
02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:26,400
but i think but i think the bigfoot in

3104
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:27,360
general

3105
02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:29,520
maybe it's merely just an opinion but

3106
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:31,119
maybe they could even be a

3107
02:10:37,589 --> 02:10:34,320
hybrid human species

3108
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:37,599
could be could be now what about

3109
02:10:45,430 --> 02:10:42,239
uh and lou elizondo

3110
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:45,440
sort of as alluded to this uh so many

3111
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:46,560
others have too

3112
02:10:54,550 --> 02:10:50,719
as well that uh these sightings uh

3113
02:10:56,709 --> 02:10:54,560
may not be us but they may not be et

3114
02:10:59,830 --> 02:10:56,719
as well i'm talking about our technology

3115
02:11:03,430 --> 02:10:59,840
but maybe it's us from the future

3116
02:11:03,830 --> 02:11:03,440
maybe it's it's it's another race that

3117
02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:03,840
is

3118
02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:06,880
already here living under the oceans but

3119
02:11:12,149 --> 02:11:08,239
that would bring in

3120
02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:12,159
the question of time travel so

3121
02:11:15,589 --> 02:11:14,239
do you think that that's a possibility

3122
02:11:18,950 --> 02:11:15,599
uh that time travel

3123
02:11:21,189 --> 02:11:18,960
is in play here with say the tic tac toc

3124
02:11:23,109 --> 02:11:21,199
maybe us from the future

3125
02:11:24,629 --> 02:11:23,119
well when we look at time travel we have

3126
02:11:26,550 --> 02:11:24,639
to understand there are quite a few

3127
02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:26,560
paradoxes such as the grandfather

3128
02:11:30,069 --> 02:11:27,599
paradox

3129
02:11:31,030 --> 02:11:30,079
and let me just quickly describe what

3130
02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:31,040
that is

3131
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:33,199
if you go back in time to the time of

3132
02:11:36,310 --> 02:11:34,880
your grandfather and you kill your

3133
02:11:38,069 --> 02:11:36,320
grandfather

3134
02:11:39,589 --> 02:11:38,079
that means you were never born so did

3135
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:39,599
you really kill your grandfather and

3136
02:11:42,390 --> 02:11:41,280
it's this vicious loop which is a

3137
02:11:46,470 --> 02:11:42,400
complete

3138
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:46,480
paradox so it's believed by um

3139
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:50,400
theoretical phys physicists say that if

3140
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:53,599
time travel is possible you might be

3141
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:55,679
time traveling to a parallel

3142
02:11:59,270 --> 02:11:58,880
dimension a parallel universe that is

3143
02:12:01,669 --> 02:11:59,280
very

3144
02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:01,679
similar to ours but it cannot be the

3145
02:12:06,470 --> 02:12:03,840
exact same because you would run into

3146
02:12:10,069 --> 02:12:06,480
the grandfather paradox

3147
02:12:13,350 --> 02:12:10,079
right so but it would be a mess

3148
02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:13,360
yeah that would be a mess i have so many

3149
02:12:18,310 --> 02:12:16,560
theories that come into play um i'm not

3150
02:12:19,430 --> 02:12:18,320
going to get into my opinions on this

3151
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:19,440
i've done

3152
02:12:26,069 --> 02:12:22,960
shows uh upon shows about this

3153
02:12:29,669 --> 02:12:26,079
but if it is us

3154
02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:29,679
from the future coming back to here

3155
02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:32,159
what would the intention be what what

3156
02:12:36,709 --> 02:12:33,040
why would we

3157
02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:36,719
be coming back and and to be visible

3158
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:42,470
well if they are from us if they are us

3159
02:12:45,589 --> 02:12:43,760
from the future

3160
02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:45,599
that means they already know what the

3161
02:12:50,629 --> 02:12:48,079
future looks like maybe they want to

3162
02:12:51,589 --> 02:12:50,639
make it better or they want to follow

3163
02:12:54,390 --> 02:12:51,599
the timeline

3164
02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:54,400
that is needed for their future to

3165
02:12:58,870 --> 02:12:55,599
flourish

3166
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:58,880
so a possible reason to why

3167
02:13:01,990 --> 02:13:01,199
they want to be seen is maybe they want

3168
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:02,000
to be the

3169
02:13:08,950 --> 02:13:05,520
movement for this topic to be

3170
02:13:12,390 --> 02:13:08,960
talked about openly

3171
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:12,400
that's tasty now what about okay

3172
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:15,920
the mandela effect and i'll give you an

3173
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:17,840
example of the mandela effect i had one

3174
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:18,880
today

3175
02:13:25,750 --> 02:13:22,960
um i did uh my on this day in history

3176
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:25,760
today which was 1996

3177
02:13:31,589 --> 02:13:29,440
and that was dolly the sheep was

3178
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:31,599
cloned you know the first clone to

3179
02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:34,239
mammal that was 1996. i thought that was

3180
02:13:38,950 --> 02:13:36,320
in the 1970s

3181
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:38,960
and i was very confused about that and i

3182
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:41,280
went back and did some research

3183
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:44,960
and i'm still a little bit confused

3184
02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:46,719
what do you make of the mandela effect

3185
02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:49,360
and millions of people can't be crazy

3186
02:13:54,069 --> 02:13:50,960
right

3187
02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:54,079
no no it can't be and i i have a similar

3188
02:13:58,069 --> 02:13:56,800
experience where i truly believe for the

3189
02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:58,079
longest time that there were

3190
02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:01,199
51 states instead of 50 and i like i

3191
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:03,840
swore to it i remember learning it in

3192
02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:04,880
class

3193
02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:07,280
and i'm thinking there's 50. no no that

3194
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:08,880
can't be correct so

3195
02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:10,800
um i think this is becoming more

3196
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:12,560
mainstream the fact that more people are

3197
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:13,920
talking about it

3198
02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:16,320
is is a good thing but when it comes to

3199
02:14:19,830 --> 02:14:17,599
the actual

3200
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:19,840
structure of the mandala effect i don't

3201
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:21,679
know too much about it

3202
02:14:25,189 --> 02:14:23,280
but there is something that i want to

3203
02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:25,199
mention that i've never talked about on

3204
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:26,079
air and i want

3205
02:14:32,470 --> 02:14:29,440
you and your audience to know this but

3206
02:14:33,910 --> 02:14:32,480
because you you probably have noticed or

3207
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:33,920
if you watch it on rerun

3208
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:37,520
you will notice that when i grew up i

3209
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:40,480
challenged i was challenged with verbal

3210
02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:42,000
dyslexia

3211
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:45,840
reading which i struggle with that too

3212
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:49,760
but it's the same sense where my mind

3213
02:14:55,189 --> 02:14:52,400
can't comprehend or try to follow where

3214
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:55,199
my mouth is going so i grew up with a

3215
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:56,000
really bad

3216
02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:58,480
stutter growing up i have that problem

3217
02:15:02,069 --> 02:15:00,000
every day on the show

3218
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,079
and when people noticed it it would

3219
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:04,320
simply get worse especially when i get

3220
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:05,199
nervous

3221
02:15:09,270 --> 02:15:07,520
or too excited and this is something

3222
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:09,280
that i've never really talked about

3223
02:15:13,750 --> 02:15:12,000
openly just because i find it kind of

3224
02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:13,760
embarrassing and it shouldn't be a

3225
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:15,119
crutch for me

3226
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:18,320
but because of such a big show i i

3227
02:15:23,270 --> 02:15:20,320
really wanted to let you kind of

3228
02:15:25,830 --> 02:15:23,280
understand that that um

3229
02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:25,840
my brain and my words don't always match

3230
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:27,280
and sometimes i'll be

3231
02:15:32,229 --> 02:15:30,320
classified as like ignorant or i have no

3232
02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:32,239
idea what i'm saying but like my

3233
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:35,599
my brain is there it's ready to go with

3234
02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:37,920
everything head on and the words come

3235
02:15:41,589 --> 02:15:39,679
out and it's like i

3236
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:41,599
i can't comprehend that i said it

3237
02:15:45,270 --> 02:15:42,800
incorrectly

3238
02:15:46,069 --> 02:15:45,280
until after i watch it over and i said

3239
02:15:49,030 --> 02:15:46,079
ah

3240
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:49,040
i can't believe i just said that 100

3241
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:50,000
wrong

3242
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:52,159
but it is something that i've that i'm

3243
02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:54,400
overcoming as as time progresses because

3244
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:56,000
i really don't have a choice

3245
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,719
as going on this path of working for the

3246
02:16:01,350 --> 02:16:00,560
debrief and having my own youtube

3247
02:16:04,709 --> 02:16:01,360
channel

3248
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:04,719
but it can be so awful at times and i'm

3249
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:06,400
i'm gonna assume that you've already

3250
02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:09,199
seen it yeah yeah i have and i i i think

3251
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:10,239
it's totally cool

3252
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:18,000
51 states you remember being taught

3253
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:21,040
that yes i do i do and i

3254
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:23,920
i i truly believe it's because of the

3255
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:25,920
mandala effect i mean i remember even

3256
02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:27,119
singing a song

3257
02:16:31,910 --> 02:16:29,920
for um for school when kids in

3258
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:31,920
elementary school used to sing songs

3259
02:16:37,509 --> 02:16:33,280
that it was

3260
02:16:41,990 --> 02:16:40,150
i would love for you to name them i mean

3261
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:42,000
what's the 51st state what

3262
02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:43,920
what i thought it was going to be hawaii

3263
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:46,000
but i do know all 50 states

3264
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:49,840
in alphabetical order 51 states

3265
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:52,000
that that's pretty interesting that's

3266
02:16:55,349 --> 02:16:53,120
pretty interesting

3267
02:16:57,190 --> 02:16:55,359
when i've looked it up at online i'm not

3268
02:16:59,830 --> 02:16:57,200
the only one that's believed that there

3269
02:17:02,549 --> 02:16:59,840
are 51 states it's either it's in that

3270
02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:02,559
kind of flux between 49 and 51

3271
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:04,800
and it's somewhat popular on the

3272
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:05,920
internet

3273
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:09,359
now um uh i want to close uh before we

3274
02:17:13,990 --> 02:17:11,040
run out of time i've got uh

3275
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:14,000
two last points you brought up ancient

3276
02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:15,040
aliens

3277
02:17:19,509 --> 02:17:18,080
uh the the tv show uh in the first

3278
02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:19,519
segment

3279
02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:22,000
where where do you stand with that with

3280
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:24,080
with lost history and ancient

3281
02:17:27,110 --> 02:17:26,800
alien theory do you believe that we have

3282
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:27,120
been

3283
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:30,240
visited for for millennia

3284
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:32,639
well talking about ancient aliens the tv

3285
02:17:38,629 --> 02:17:34,639
show it's one of the very first

3286
02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:38,639
shows that made the mainstream

3287
02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:41,280
media that people talk about and because

3288
02:17:44,790 --> 02:17:42,080
it had

3289
02:17:45,750 --> 02:17:44,800
some kind of evidence not necessarily

3290
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:45,760
fact because

3291
02:17:49,910 --> 02:17:48,800
this is merely um speculation of things

3292
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:49,920
that they could

3293
02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:52,880
possibly be right what these art pieces

3294
02:17:56,950 --> 02:17:53,280
are

3295
02:17:58,150 --> 02:17:56,960
trying to convey but the fact that it's

3296
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:58,160
even being

3297
02:18:02,070 --> 02:18:00,479
talked about that it's been going on

3298
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:02,080
this show has been going on for

3299
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:04,319
years and the fact that people are still

3300
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:05,760
interested in it

3301
02:18:12,309 --> 02:18:08,800
is huge this is a really really

3302
02:18:13,509 --> 02:18:12,319
big deal so overall i'm very pleased

3303
02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:13,519
with the tv show

3304
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:15,519
i like that they're talking about it

3305
02:18:20,070 --> 02:18:17,120
making it mainstream with

3306
02:18:22,070 --> 02:18:20,080
without having eyewitness accounts but

3307
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:22,080
trying to comprehend

3308
02:18:29,110 --> 02:18:25,280
history through art and through

3309
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:29,120
topography versus interviewing someone

3310
02:18:34,309 --> 02:18:30,880
having their eyewitness account and you

3311
02:18:37,349 --> 02:18:34,319
simply just have to believe them

3312
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:37,359
now when it comes to ancient

3313
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:40,559
knowledge and ancient aliens not the tv

3314
02:18:44,469 --> 02:18:41,359
show but just

3315
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:44,479
the history that we have there are

3316
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:47,920
epochs of lost time that we are not

3317
02:18:52,070 --> 02:18:51,040
taught about in school the earth has

3318
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:52,080
already had

3319
02:18:57,910 --> 02:18:55,439
five extinctions what happened

3320
02:18:58,870 --> 02:18:57,920
previously to those extinctions what

3321
02:19:01,830 --> 02:18:58,880
evidence

3322
02:19:02,870 --> 02:19:01,840
is there currently that happened during

3323
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:02,880
those times

3324
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:05,120
other than the rocks that we see the

3325
02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:06,719
mountains that we see that

3326
02:19:13,990 --> 02:19:11,120
give the timeline of age

3327
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:14,000
anything as anything is possible do i

3328
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:15,519
believe that we've been visited

3329
02:19:23,750 --> 02:19:18,800
by aliens in ancient times i don't see

3330
02:19:26,790 --> 02:19:23,760
why not the answer is absolutely

3331
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:26,800
but let's let's

3332
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:28,639
let's let's stay with this for a second

3333
02:19:34,709 --> 02:19:31,519
because when we look at

3334
02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:34,719
uh the traditional the stuff that you're

3335
02:19:38,950 --> 02:19:36,160
taught in college right

3336
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:38,960
and you jump into world history and and

3337
02:19:43,030 --> 02:19:41,200
and they start to give you the timelines

3338
02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:43,040
or they're gonna teach you in college

3339
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:44,880
that everything started

3340
02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:49,120
at uh 3000 bc in in mesopotamian ancient

3341
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:49,680
egypt

3342
02:19:55,830 --> 02:19:52,800
that before that it was stone age man

3343
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:55,840
running around in animal skins right

3344
02:19:59,349 --> 02:19:57,760
that that's it there was no language

3345
02:20:01,270 --> 02:19:59,359
there was nothing there was no knowledge

3346
02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:01,280
there was no technology

3347
02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:04,000
but now we know that that is clearly not

3348
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:05,280
the case

3349
02:20:10,630 --> 02:20:09,280
that uh two things one giza the sphinx

3350
02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:10,640
and the pyramids may be

3351
02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:13,520
uh tens of thousands of years older than

3352
02:20:17,590 --> 02:20:14,800
what we're taught

3353
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:17,600
but then we also have gobekli tepi which

3354
02:20:21,670 --> 02:20:17,920
is

3355
02:20:24,950 --> 02:20:21,680
seven thousand years older

3356
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:24,960
than giza right and and go back later

3357
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:28,240
wasn't supposed to exist right

3358
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:31,280
so what do we do with that obviously

3359
02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:33,439
there was high tech put it under the rug

3360
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:35,280
you put under the rug jimmy

3361
02:20:40,630 --> 02:20:38,080
don't talk about it yeah yeah yeah are

3362
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:40,640
you taking a world history class

3363
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:43,439
um the only world history class that i

3364
02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:46,000
took in college was indian history

3365
02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:48,080
um i wasn't required for my major to

3366
02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:49,439
take another one

3367
02:20:54,309 --> 02:20:52,399
ah well see you should because that

3368
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:54,319
gives you the opportunity

3369
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:56,479
right to raise your hand and go well

3370
02:21:01,150 --> 02:20:58,720
what about gobekli tapi

3371
02:21:02,389 --> 02:21:01,160
right there was something way before

3372
02:21:08,309 --> 02:21:02,399
mesopotamia

3373
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:10,630
it's true but i mean the question is do

3374
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:12,080
those people that are teaching those

3375
02:21:16,870 --> 02:21:13,760
world history class

3376
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:16,880
know about that well they do now

3377
02:21:19,990 --> 02:21:19,600
they do now i hope so they do now and

3378
02:21:24,950 --> 02:21:20,000
the

3379
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:24,960
go back to go back lee tepe

3380
02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:29,040
christina somebody taught them

3381
02:21:34,710 --> 02:21:32,160
how to carve those those those

3382
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:34,720
stones somebody taught them about

3383
02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:36,800
astronomy somebody taught them

3384
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:39,439
about geometry somebody taught them how

3385
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:40,080
to do

3386
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:43,120
relief art right i mean

3387
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:45,840
exactly and and then look at look at

3388
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:46,800
even

3389
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:48,960
the religions or the ideologies of

3390
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:50,720
buddhism and hinduism and

3391
02:21:54,230 --> 02:21:52,640
the ancient times and how they talk

3392
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:54,240
about this i mean this this

3393
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:56,960
interests me so much they talk about

3394
02:22:00,230 --> 02:21:57,760
missing

3395
02:22:00,870 --> 02:22:00,240
epoch they talk about the vimanas right

3396
02:22:04,150 --> 02:22:00,880
these

3397
02:22:07,270 --> 02:22:04,160
have

3398
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:07,280
blue skinned gods that other

3399
02:22:11,670 --> 02:22:09,600
cultures didn't really talk about blue

3400
02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:11,680
skinned does that make him a god

3401
02:22:16,389 --> 02:22:14,720
are they aliens and so

3402
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:16,399
if we even look at religion i mean

3403
02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:18,479
forget the tv show ancient aliens if we

3404
02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:18,880
just

3405
02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:22,399
look at ancient knowledge

3406
02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:25,520
bits and pieces they fill the hole with

3407
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:28,960
things that they write from times

3408
02:22:34,950 --> 02:22:32,720
before 3000 bc

3409
02:22:37,830 --> 02:22:34,960
that i think is sometimes overlooked to

3410
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:37,840
be for for people that don't really

3411
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:41,040
want to read these um ancient

3412
02:22:48,830 --> 02:22:45,600
books yeah i saw that i saw that

3413
02:22:50,110 --> 02:22:48,840
i saw your cable okay now one of the

3414
02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:50,120
most

3415
02:22:59,429 --> 02:22:54,560
polarizing subjects in all of ufology

3416
02:23:05,670 --> 02:22:59,439
is is one man it's bob lazar

3417
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:05,680
bob lazar so let's talk about bob lazar

3418
02:23:13,670 --> 02:23:08,800
before we get to bob do you believe

3419
02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:13,680
that area 51 houses

3420
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:17,200
crashed flying saucers retrieve

3421
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:20,240
retrievals maybe even alien bodies do

3422
02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:21,920
you think that that happens out at area

3423
02:23:25,030 --> 02:23:23,280
51

3424
02:23:27,270 --> 02:23:25,040
well you said you can get me to talk to

3425
02:23:29,830 --> 02:23:27,280
travis walton but can you get me a pass

3426
02:23:32,790 --> 02:23:29,840
into area 51 i certainly can

3427
02:23:34,150 --> 02:23:32,800
i have the power i have the power i can

3428
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:34,160
do it i can do it well then

3429
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:37,200
i can only answer your question after i

3430
02:23:44,830 --> 02:23:40,479
enter area 51 well

3431
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,840
now let's go to bob lazar okay

3432
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:46,960
okay bob lazar

3433
02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:50,399
was the man that brought area 51

3434
02:23:53,990 --> 02:23:53,439
into the public eye he stuck to his

3435
02:23:57,830 --> 02:23:54,000
story

3436
02:24:01,990 --> 02:23:57,840
saying that he has

3437
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:02,000
created these crafts right trying to um

3438
02:24:07,429 --> 02:24:04,640
backwards engineer thank you backward

3439
02:24:10,630 --> 02:24:07,439
engineer what they've already captured

3440
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:10,640
many people don't believe it regardless

3441
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:12,960
of if he's telling the truth or if he's

3442
02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:14,000
lying

3443
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:17,280
he's done a sufficient

3444
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:20,960
amount of work to bring this topic

3445
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:23,200
into the public eye he brought the topic

3446
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:24,640
of area 51

3447
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:27,280
he talked about that the government is

3448
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:28,240
possibly

3449
02:24:38,389 --> 02:24:36,070
rearranging them to recreate them

3450
02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:38,399
so even if he's lying or not he's

3451
02:24:43,990 --> 02:24:40,960
opening the mind of curiosity to people

3452
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:44,000
to ask the big questions what's really

3453
02:25:00,630 --> 02:24:56,150
do okay what about element 115

3454
02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:00,640
the best way the best way to

3455
02:25:07,110 --> 02:25:04,000
discredit someone is to

3456
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:07,120
tell everyone that they are crazy

3457
02:25:12,070 --> 02:25:09,520
that they are lying and in some cases

3458
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:12,080
that's a lot easier than killing someone

3459
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:12,720
right because

3460
02:25:17,429 --> 02:25:15,359
then they become a landmark and saying

3461
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:17,439
bob lazar or whoever else was telling

3462
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:18,720
the absolute truth

3463
02:25:22,710 --> 02:25:21,040
someone killed them to silence them this

3464
02:25:25,990 --> 02:25:22,720
that and the other and you're gonna have

3465
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:26,000
a revolt but if you just

3466
02:25:32,950 --> 02:25:29,760
let people write things and

3467
02:25:35,590 --> 02:25:32,960
discredit him or anyone or

3468
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:35,600
absolutely anyone not just bob lazar but

3469
02:25:40,630 --> 02:25:37,120
whoever else

3470
02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:40,640
just discrediting them silencing them

3471
02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:44,160
can be more beneficial to keep a

3472
02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:47,520
secret quiet than trying to

3473
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:49,920
kill them by making it look like a

3474
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:51,040
natural death

3475
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:53,359
this is merely speculation i don't know

3476
02:25:57,830 --> 02:25:55,840
i have not talked to bob lazar myself

3477
02:25:59,750 --> 02:25:57,840
and asked him so is what you're saying

3478
02:26:02,070 --> 02:25:59,760
true or no

3479
02:26:03,670 --> 02:26:02,080
i i can merely just take his story and

3480
02:26:06,790 --> 02:26:03,680
then make my own conclusions

3481
02:26:08,230 --> 02:26:06,800
based off what he says what a great

3482
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:08,240
conversation tonight

3483
02:26:12,389 --> 02:26:11,680
and i had an awesome time but now i need

3484
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:12,399
to know

3485
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:15,840
this how do you choose

3486
02:26:20,230 --> 02:26:18,720
your subjects that you're going to cover

3487
02:26:21,910 --> 02:26:20,240
you have uh you know you have two

3488
02:26:24,630 --> 02:26:21,920
different shows that you do

3489
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:24,640
the stuff for the debrief is this uh

3490
02:26:29,030 --> 02:26:25,840
coming from

3491
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:29,040
uh micah and tim and they're handing you

3492
02:26:32,830 --> 02:26:31,120
off a subject or do you tell them what

3493
02:26:36,070 --> 02:26:32,840
you're gonna do

3494
02:26:39,429 --> 02:26:36,080
both both a lot of the

3495
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:39,439
um uap topics

3496
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:42,080
are the ones that i pass by over to them

3497
02:26:44,389 --> 02:26:43,920
but the recent ones that are like two

3498
02:26:47,670 --> 02:26:44,399
minute

3499
02:26:48,469 --> 02:26:47,680
segments like express reports are ones

3500
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:48,479
that

3501
02:26:52,309 --> 02:26:50,160
i just kind of summarize one of their

3502
02:26:54,550 --> 02:26:52,319
articles and let people know to go ahead

3503
02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:54,560
and read the full report

3504
02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:58,319
but what i what i want to say that

3505
02:27:01,990 --> 02:27:01,040
what i want to say about being on the

3506
02:27:04,230 --> 02:27:02,000
debrief

3507
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:04,240
being in the public eye talking to

3508
02:27:07,030 --> 02:27:05,200
countless people

3509
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:07,040
talking to the camera like i'm doing

3510
02:27:12,309 --> 02:27:08,640
right now and

3511
02:27:15,590 --> 02:27:12,319
having this verbal dyslexia

3512
02:27:17,510 --> 02:27:15,600
i know i am not the only one that has

3513
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:17,520
this it's a lot more common than people

3514
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:18,319
think

3515
02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:21,520
and if yours is really bad

3516
02:27:25,750 --> 02:27:24,399
or not you can do this and i'm talking

3517
02:27:29,270 --> 02:27:25,760
to the audience that it

3518
02:27:32,070 --> 02:27:29,280
you can push forward

3519
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:32,080
regardless of how you speak or if you

3520
02:27:35,830 --> 02:27:34,080
have a stutter or if you have some kind

3521
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:35,840
of social anxiety

3522
02:27:39,190 --> 02:27:37,439
because i know i'm not the only one that

3523
02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:39,200
has it you can beat it

3524
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:41,439
all you have to do is just be mindful

3525
02:27:45,190 --> 02:27:42,720
and put your mind to

3526
02:27:47,590 --> 02:27:45,200
the topic that you're talking about and

3527
02:27:50,710 --> 02:27:47,600
you can reach the stars

3528
02:27:52,230 --> 02:27:50,720
now how do you uh i've only got a minute

3529
02:27:53,750 --> 02:27:52,240
left i should have asked this at the

3530
02:27:56,870 --> 02:27:53,760
very beginning

3531
02:28:00,230 --> 02:27:56,880
it seems to me that you are

3532
02:28:02,870 --> 02:28:00,240
always posting you're always

3533
02:28:05,429 --> 02:28:02,880
live you're always streaming you've

3534
02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:05,439
always got new content on the debrief

3535
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:07,359
and you're ignoring college and your

3536
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:09,040
studies in your personal life

3537
02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:10,560
how do you how do you get all of this

3538
02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:12,640
done insomnia

3539
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:14,410
yeah right

3540
02:28:19,750 --> 02:28:16,319
[Laughter]

3541
02:28:21,910 --> 02:28:19,760
i don't sleep and i

3542
02:28:23,270 --> 02:28:21,920
my my college grades i used to be an

3543
02:28:25,190 --> 02:28:23,280
honor student and now

3544
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:25,200
i am no longer an honor student so

3545
02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:26,880
they're slightly suffering but i am

3546
02:28:29,910 --> 02:28:27,520
passing

3547
02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:29,920
because i find this topic so much more

3548
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:30,800
important

3549
02:28:34,469 --> 02:28:33,120
talking to others inspiring others even

3550
02:28:36,550 --> 02:28:34,479
trying to motivate people

3551
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:36,560
to get interested in the topic it's so

3552
02:28:39,990 --> 02:28:38,080
much more important to me

3553
02:28:42,630 --> 02:28:40,000
than merely getting a sheet of paper and

3554
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:42,640
saying i passed in the university

3555
02:28:46,630 --> 02:28:44,960
well i i look forward to seeing you at

3556
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:46,640
one of the conferences and we can break

3557
02:28:50,309 --> 02:28:48,479
some bread and hang out

3558
02:28:51,590 --> 02:28:50,319
and i just keep doing what you're doing

3559
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:51,600
and i know that

3560
02:28:56,389 --> 02:28:54,479
uh the generations underneath me are in

3561
02:28:58,230 --> 02:28:56,399
good hands moving forward

3562
02:29:00,230 --> 02:28:58,240
thank you so much christina enjoy the

3563
02:29:02,150 --> 02:29:00,240
rest of your night now go study

3564
02:29:03,429 --> 02:29:02,160
and eat some vanilla haagen-dazs all

3565
02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:03,439
right

3566
02:29:07,190 --> 02:29:05,120
thank you so much for having me it's

3567
02:29:09,429 --> 02:29:07,200
been an absolute honor you're the best

3568
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:09,439
thank you so much christina and and be

3569
02:29:12,950 --> 02:29:10,800
sure to tell uh

3570
02:29:14,870 --> 02:29:12,960
mike and tim i said hello do that for me

3571
02:29:17,910 --> 02:29:14,880
i will i'll talk to you

3572
02:29:19,990 --> 02:29:17,920
christina gomez and of course it is

3573
02:29:21,469 --> 02:29:20,000
the debrief and all of christina's

3574
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:21,479
information is over at

3575
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:22,960
jimmychurchradio.com

3576
02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:24,720
i am going to take a quick break and

3577
02:29:27,510 --> 02:29:26,160
when i return

3578
02:29:29,429 --> 02:29:27,520
i'm going to take some of your phone

3579
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:29,439
calls we're going to do that and

3580
02:29:32,469 --> 02:29:31,120
remember this is my last night i'm

3581
02:29:34,630 --> 02:29:32,479
taking the week off

3582
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,640
after this thank you christina have a

3583
02:29:56,710 --> 02:29:36,479
great night thank you so much i'll be

3584
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:58,550
hey what up y'all should go biblical fox

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here and you are listening to my boy

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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

3653
02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:04,840
born this way

3654
02:33:11,920 --> 02:33:28,240
this is kjcr jimmychurchradio.com

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02:33:36,309 --> 02:33:34,150
[Music]

3656
02:33:38,389 --> 02:33:36,319
all right welcome back fade to black i

3657
02:33:40,710 --> 02:33:38,399
am your host jimmy church

3658
02:33:43,850 --> 02:33:40,720
man my headphones are shorting out i

3659
02:33:45,590 --> 02:33:43,860
hate this when this happens

3660
02:33:48,469 --> 02:33:45,600
[Applause]

3661
02:33:48,790 --> 02:33:48,479
and i don't know what causes it uh it's

3662
02:33:51,910 --> 02:33:48,800
like

3663
02:33:55,110 --> 02:33:51,920
some kind of some kind of short

3664
02:33:57,670 --> 02:33:55,120
i i i don't know what it is all right

3665
02:33:58,710 --> 02:33:57,680
i'll ignore it seven four seven two two

3666
02:34:01,990 --> 02:33:58,720
eight two zero five

3667
02:34:04,230 --> 02:34:02,000
one seven four seven two two eight

3668
02:34:06,630 --> 02:34:04,240
two zero five one i want to thank

3669
02:34:09,670 --> 02:34:06,640
christina gomez for coming in tonight

3670
02:34:12,950 --> 02:34:09,680
and uh you know launching it

3671
02:34:14,870 --> 02:34:12,960
with with what she is doing um

3672
02:34:16,070 --> 02:34:14,880
i have said so many times over the years

3673
02:34:19,510 --> 02:34:16,080
and i really mean this

3674
02:34:22,870 --> 02:34:19,520
i go to conferences and and i

3675
02:34:26,550 --> 02:34:22,880
see a mix

3676
02:34:27,270 --> 02:34:26,560
years ago a mix of ages years ago and

3677
02:34:30,550 --> 02:34:27,280
i'm i'm

3678
02:34:31,670 --> 02:34:30,560
i'm going back 20 years i remember

3679
02:34:34,389 --> 02:34:31,680
reading

3680
02:34:36,630 --> 02:34:34,399
uh this article about a ufo conference

3681
02:34:40,630 --> 02:34:36,640
and i've spoken about this before but

3682
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:40,640
i read this article and it was

3683
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:44,160
uh for me it was an eye-opener because

3684
02:34:49,030 --> 02:34:47,359
this was a critic of the ufo conferences

3685
02:34:51,750 --> 02:34:49,040
and and saying things like

3686
02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:51,760
uh you know it's nothing but an older

3687
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:54,160
gray-haired generation there's no kids

3688
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:56,000
there's nobody middle-aged

3689
02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:58,720
it's uh this certain class of of

3690
02:35:01,110 --> 02:35:00,319
individual that that goes to these

3691
02:35:02,710 --> 02:35:01,120
conferences

3692
02:35:04,389 --> 02:35:02,720
and and that's what you're going to see

3693
02:35:06,309 --> 02:35:04,399
when you go there and

3694
02:35:07,429 --> 02:35:06,319
and i remember reading i hadn't gone to

3695
02:35:11,190 --> 02:35:07,439
a conference yet

3696
02:35:14,630 --> 02:35:11,200
this was uh in the mid 90s and

3697
02:35:17,910 --> 02:35:14,640
uh when i started to

3698
02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:17,920
go to conferences uh mufon meetings and

3699
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:19,840
and conferences and things i didn't see

3700
02:35:25,429 --> 02:35:21,040
that

3701
02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:25,439
and i was totally impressed

3702
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:28,720
with uh the younger generation

3703
02:35:36,309 --> 02:35:32,880
you know 18 19 20 21 year old 22

3704
02:35:38,710 --> 02:35:36,319
and here i am in my you know 50s

3705
02:35:40,710 --> 02:35:38,720
coming up and asking me questions and a

3706
02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:40,720
true knowledge base

3707
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:43,760
of of ufology and research

3708
02:35:49,990 --> 02:35:46,960
and and i have always

3709
02:35:53,349 --> 02:35:50,000
felt really good about the future

3710
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:53,359
of our community and and i've uh

3711
02:35:57,429 --> 02:35:56,399
um uh expressed this many many many

3712
02:36:00,469 --> 02:35:57,439
times

3713
02:36:03,670 --> 02:36:00,479
and what is going on today uh

3714
02:36:04,070 --> 02:36:03,680
i i feel confident you know i i really

3715
02:36:07,270 --> 02:36:04,080
do

3716
02:36:08,630 --> 02:36:07,280
and to hear um i've i've watched uh

3717
02:36:11,590 --> 02:36:08,640
christina's

3718
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:11,600
uh live streams i've participated in in

3719
02:36:14,230 --> 02:36:12,399
some

3720
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:14,240
and to let her know that i'm there i'm

3721
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:16,080
watching right

3722
02:36:23,349 --> 02:36:19,280
and and and her guest um

3723
02:36:25,429 --> 02:36:23,359
uh but to hear their research and the

3724
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:25,439
way that they approach this

3725
02:36:29,349 --> 02:36:27,680
and their knowledge base is very very

3726
02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:29,359
very solid

3727
02:36:35,750 --> 02:36:32,640
it's impossible uh to

3728
02:36:36,070 --> 02:36:35,760
uh when i think about where i was in my

3729
02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:36,080
uh

3730
02:36:41,270 --> 02:36:38,880
early 20s in ufology and you're starting

3731
02:36:44,389 --> 02:36:41,280
to get into the research

3732
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:44,399
there's so much of it to get done so

3733
02:36:47,670 --> 02:36:45,280
much

3734
02:36:50,309 --> 02:36:47,680
and all i have done i've watched all the

3735
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:50,319
documentaries i've read all the books

3736
02:36:54,309 --> 02:36:53,040
i've listened to all the interviews um

3737
02:36:58,710 --> 02:36:54,319
but i've done this now

3738
02:37:02,230 --> 02:36:58,720
for 30 40 years i'm 58 i've done this

3739
02:37:02,710 --> 02:37:02,240
yeah almost 50 years and my knowledge

3740
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:02,720
base

3741
02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:05,680
is what it is after time and you can't

3742
02:37:09,710 --> 02:37:06,080
just

3743
02:37:11,830 --> 02:37:09,720
jump into this uh subject and know

3744
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:11,840
everything it's impossible it's

3745
02:37:15,750 --> 02:37:12,880
impossible

3746
02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:15,760
but the foundation uh for christina and

3747
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:18,479
all of her friends and co-hosts and

3748
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:21,120
that come on to uh her live stream is

3749
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:22,319
pretty solid

3750
02:37:25,910 --> 02:37:24,640
and i know that moving forward we're in

3751
02:37:28,389 --> 02:37:25,920
totally good hands

3752
02:37:29,830 --> 02:37:28,399
and and i really want to thank her for

3753
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:29,840
coming on the show tonight

3754
02:37:33,429 --> 02:37:32,479
um i know that she's listened to fade to

3755
02:37:36,950 --> 02:37:33,439
black a lot

3756
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:36,960
and um uh to come in here that's uh

3757
02:37:41,990 --> 02:37:38,560
that's a really big deal

3758
02:37:43,510 --> 02:37:42,000
you know and uh absolutely absolutely

3759
02:37:45,190 --> 02:37:43,520
great conversation tonight

3760
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:45,200
she's got a bright bright future in

3761
02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:47,280
front of her and she's in good hands

3762
02:37:50,710 --> 02:37:47,680
with

3763
02:37:53,990 --> 02:37:50,720
tim mcmillan and and micah hanks to

3764
02:37:57,910 --> 02:37:54,000
uh to help guide her uh on this journey

3765
02:38:00,870 --> 02:37:57,920
and she has had some really good guests

3766
02:38:01,590 --> 02:38:00,880
um uh it's very impressive very

3767
02:38:04,389 --> 02:38:01,600
impressive

3768
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:04,399
so thank you christina uh totally great

3769
02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:06,000
conversation tonight

3770
02:38:10,389 --> 02:38:08,000
um with that i'm opening up the phone

3771
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:10,399
lines remember i'm gonna say it again i

3772
02:38:14,230 --> 02:38:11,520
am gone

3773
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:14,240
uh after i sign off tonight i will be uh

3774
02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:16,640
on location for the rest of the week

3775
02:38:19,670 --> 02:38:18,479
uh on a film shoot and it's gonna be

3776
02:38:22,389 --> 02:38:19,680
great but

3777
02:38:24,630 --> 02:38:22,399
this is it so uh this is the last

3778
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:24,640
opportunity to uh do some open lines

3779
02:38:34,150 --> 02:38:30,389
eight 747-228-222 zero five one

3780
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:34,160
and i will answer the calls in order

3781
02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:37,280
let's see who is up first hi you're live

3782
02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:39,040
on fade to black who's calling god turn

3783
02:38:43,750 --> 02:38:42,000
me down in the background

3784
02:38:45,030 --> 02:38:43,760
okay you're down hi it's steph from

3785
02:38:48,070 --> 02:38:45,040
sacramento hi jimmy

3786
02:38:49,990 --> 02:38:48,080
hey deb how are you

3787
02:38:51,349 --> 02:38:50,000
really good and very encouraged i hope

3788
02:38:53,750 --> 02:38:51,359
christina is still listening because i

3789
02:38:56,710 --> 02:38:53,760
just want to say girl you go you know

3790
02:38:58,630 --> 02:38:56,720
i would never ever um guess you have

3791
02:39:00,389 --> 02:38:58,640
such a wonderful addiction

3792
02:39:01,670 --> 02:39:00,399
and cadence when you speak and

3793
02:39:03,510 --> 02:39:01,680
intelligence

3794
02:39:05,349 --> 02:39:03,520
and i just want to encourage you to keep

3795
02:39:07,670 --> 02:39:05,359
going thank you for sharing your

3796
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:07,680
a personal you know struggle about that

3797
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:09,520
but i would have never known and i have

3798
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:11,600
tuned in on a few of your shows

3799
02:39:16,389 --> 02:39:14,240
and you are always very prepared and

3800
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:16,399
your material is very structured

3801
02:39:20,469 --> 02:39:18,479
and i like the way you interview people

3802
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:20,479
you never step on when they're speaking

3803
02:39:24,230 --> 02:39:20,960
and

3804
02:39:26,389 --> 02:39:24,240
great future

3805
02:39:27,910 --> 02:39:26,399
i just wanted to say that yeah and you

3806
02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:27,920
know i um

3807
02:39:34,150 --> 02:39:30,960
uh i have the opportunity

3808
02:39:37,190 --> 02:39:34,160
here that nobody else has i i am

3809
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:37,200
interacting uh with all of my guests but

3810
02:39:41,590 --> 02:39:38,560
with christie

3811
02:39:45,429 --> 02:39:41,600
tonight one on one and it

3812
02:39:48,070 --> 02:39:45,439
i just found it very interesting she

3813
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:48,080
thinks before she speaks you know part

3814
02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:48,560
of it

3815
02:39:55,349 --> 02:39:52,240
is is is uh

3816
02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:55,359
how did she phrase it verbal dyslexia

3817
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:58,080
um okay so part of it is that but i

3818
02:40:00,870 --> 02:39:58,399
think

3819
02:40:02,870 --> 02:40:00,880
the other part of it is she's cautious

3820
02:40:04,550 --> 02:40:02,880
she's cautious she's a communications

3821
02:40:07,110 --> 02:40:04,560
major

3822
02:40:08,710 --> 02:40:07,120
oh i'm sorry um she said she was she

3823
02:40:10,550 --> 02:40:08,720
said it was mindful speaking

3824
02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:10,560
yeah she's mindful when she speaks she

3825
02:40:15,030 --> 02:40:11,920
thinks about

3826
02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:15,040
what she says before she says it

3827
02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:18,720
uh right and one of the things that um

3828
02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:20,880
and i hope she's listening now

3829
02:40:28,230 --> 02:40:25,040
um and this this goes with any guest um

3830
02:40:31,510 --> 02:40:28,240
myself as a host when

3831
02:40:34,550 --> 02:40:31,520
i am conducting an interview my

3832
02:40:37,990 --> 02:40:34,560
opinion does not matter

3833
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:38,000
it's the opinion of my guests and their

3834
02:40:42,070 --> 02:40:38,960
research

3835
02:40:46,309 --> 02:40:42,080
that's what matters and it's a very

3836
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:46,319
uh it's a very fine tight rope that you

3837
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:48,640
have to walk there and

3838
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:52,080
most uh podcasters and hosting

3839
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:54,319
radio this that you know they don't

3840
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:55,840
understand that they think that their

3841
02:40:59,349 --> 02:40:56,880
opinion

3842
02:41:01,590 --> 02:40:59,359
is important and it's not nobody cares

3843
02:41:02,309 --> 02:41:01,600
nobody gives a rat's ass about what you

3844
02:41:05,670 --> 02:41:02,319
think

3845
02:41:08,230 --> 02:41:05,680
and

3846
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:08,240
so for christina to have it turned

3847
02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:08,720
around

3848
02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:11,520
on her tonight one of the things that

3849
02:41:15,910 --> 02:41:12,880
she's going to

3850
02:41:17,110 --> 02:41:15,920
learn that in the future if she does uh

3851
02:41:20,870 --> 02:41:17,120
you know get interviewed

3852
02:41:23,110 --> 02:41:20,880
it is your opinion that matters right

3853
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:23,120
not not when you're doing the interview

3854
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:24,880
your opinion doesn't matter

3855
02:41:31,110 --> 02:41:28,000
but when you are the guest on the show

3856
02:41:33,030 --> 02:41:31,120
that's yes absolutely it is it is

3857
02:41:34,630 --> 02:41:33,040
you and your opinion and your thought

3858
02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:34,640
process that matters

3859
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:36,640
and so you know she'll learn she'll

3860
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:39,760
learn moving forward because

3861
02:41:46,070 --> 02:41:42,880
one of the things that i enjoy is

3862
02:41:49,670 --> 02:41:46,080
when i get interviewed by somebody else

3863
02:41:51,670 --> 02:41:49,680
i can't shut up i can't i can't shut up

3864
02:41:53,510 --> 02:41:51,680
we know we know jimmy but we love that

3865
02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:53,520
about you but i can't shut up i can't

3866
02:41:56,230 --> 02:41:54,080
shut up

3867
02:41:58,070 --> 02:41:56,240
because i never get a chance to talk

3868
02:42:01,670 --> 02:41:58,080
right i don't i'm just asking

3869
02:42:04,469 --> 02:42:01,680
questions and uh i i love it man

3870
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:04,479
i love it when somebody says so man you

3871
02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:05,520
know uh

3872
02:42:09,990 --> 02:42:07,680
what's your favorite food i can talk

3873
02:42:12,550 --> 02:42:10,000
about that for 30 straight minutes and i

3874
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:12,560
take a breath

3875
02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:14,240
well jimmy i have three quick questions

3876
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:16,399
for you okay okay because i want to give

3877
02:42:19,030 --> 02:42:17,279
someone else a chance

3878
02:42:20,710 --> 02:42:19,040
okay so the first question was when you

3879
02:42:22,230 --> 02:42:20,720
were driving back from laughlin you did

3880
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:22,240
a live stream on facebook

3881
02:42:25,269 --> 02:42:23,680
and you said you were being tailed and

3882
02:42:25,990 --> 02:42:25,279
you were going to try to ditch them men

3883
02:42:27,910 --> 02:42:26,000
in black

3884
02:42:29,429 --> 02:42:27,920
what happened with that and did you did

3885
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:29,439
you really think they were men in black

3886
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:31,840
talk about that well um yeah they

3887
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:34,560
followed me for about a hundred miles

3888
02:42:41,110 --> 02:42:37,840
out of laughlin and it was a black uh

3889
02:42:44,230 --> 02:42:41,120
uh suv i think it was like a

3890
02:42:47,429 --> 02:42:44,240
a gmc you know it was a it was a new

3891
02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:47,439
uh black uh suburban whatever

3892
02:42:53,910 --> 02:42:50,560
but it stayed behind me and

3893
02:42:58,309 --> 02:42:53,920
and i i passed cars and

3894
02:43:01,349 --> 02:42:58,319
semis and whatever i was probably doing

3895
02:43:02,630 --> 02:43:01,359
90 miles an hour and this thing is right

3896
02:43:05,910 --> 02:43:02,640
on my tail

3897
02:43:07,990 --> 02:43:05,920
and so when i started to do

3898
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:08,000
that live stream i'm glad you noticed

3899
02:43:10,790 --> 02:43:09,760
that so when i started to do the live

3900
02:43:13,110 --> 02:43:10,800
stream

3901
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:13,120
i just happened to just because i was

3902
02:43:18,950 --> 02:43:15,520
constantly in my mirror watching

3903
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:18,960
uh this this black suv so anyway

3904
02:43:22,550 --> 02:43:21,279
it just stayed right behind me and yeah

3905
02:43:25,990 --> 02:43:22,560
i mentioned it

3906
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:26,000
well while i was doing that live stream

3907
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:30,319
it passed me and stayed in front of me

3908
02:43:33,750 --> 02:43:32,560
and i thought okay and now it's like

3909
02:43:36,309 --> 02:43:33,760
slowing down and

3910
02:43:38,070 --> 02:43:36,319
and it had been behind me for i'm

3911
02:43:41,190 --> 02:43:38,080
serious about 100 miles

3912
02:43:44,550 --> 02:43:41,200
and now it's in front of me and

3913
02:43:47,830 --> 02:43:44,560
and i i was a little bit so after

3914
02:43:51,429 --> 02:43:47,840
so then i end the live stream and

3915
02:43:52,870 --> 02:43:51,439
uh i i stayed behind him uh i decided

3916
02:43:54,710 --> 02:43:52,880
not to pass him

3917
02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:54,720
and i thought okay how long is this

3918
02:44:00,870 --> 02:43:56,399
gonna continue

3919
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:00,880
and i decided that the first opportunity

3920
02:44:06,150 --> 02:44:04,160
that i had i was going to exit

3921
02:44:07,510 --> 02:44:06,160
i was just going to exit but i'm out in

3922
02:44:09,030 --> 02:44:07,520
the middle of the desert you have to

3923
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:09,040
understand

3924
02:44:12,070 --> 02:44:11,600
where this was occurring there wasn't

3925
02:44:17,190 --> 02:44:12,080
any

3926
02:44:18,950 --> 02:44:17,200
you know so i was waiting for a truck

3927
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:18,960
stop i was waiting for a gas station

3928
02:44:22,630 --> 02:44:20,720
there are no towns

3929
02:44:25,269 --> 02:44:22,640
and i was waiting for that and waiting

3930
02:44:27,269 --> 02:44:25,279
for that and it was so close to me

3931
02:44:29,190 --> 02:44:27,279
that if i would have turned on my turn

3932
02:44:31,110 --> 02:44:29,200
signals i thought that they would exit

3933
02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:31,120
too as well and i was really getting

3934
02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:32,479
nervous about it

3935
02:44:36,790 --> 02:44:35,359
and so then i i had the opportunity

3936
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:36,800
there was a gas

3937
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:39,520
there was something coming up and they

3938
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:40,000
were

3939
02:44:44,710 --> 02:44:43,840
front of me and every time i slowed down

3940
02:44:47,750 --> 02:44:44,720
they slowed down

3941
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:47,760
more and then i just

3942
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:50,479
and i did this quick exit and they kept

3943
02:44:54,870 --> 02:44:52,000
going straight

3944
02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:54,880
and i had this weird satisfaction with

3945
02:44:59,110 --> 02:44:55,520
me but

3946
02:45:00,389 --> 02:44:59,120
so this is what i did i i didn't stop

3947
02:45:03,429 --> 02:45:00,399
for gas

3948
02:45:07,510 --> 02:45:03,439
i didn't stop for food i immediately

3949
02:45:09,750 --> 02:45:07,520
got back on the freeway and uh

3950
02:45:10,870 --> 02:45:09,760
i didn't want them to turn around if i

3951
02:45:14,389 --> 02:45:10,880
was pumping gas

3952
02:45:16,630 --> 02:45:14,399
right and have them come back and and

3953
02:45:18,870 --> 02:45:16,640
uh again i'm not sure i'm not sure all i

3954
02:45:21,110 --> 02:45:18,880
know is i felt like i was being tailed

3955
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:21,120
uh a hundred percent you were genuinely

3956
02:45:25,349 --> 02:45:22,319
nervous i was

3957
02:45:28,550 --> 02:45:25,359
i felt like i was being tailed i

3958
02:45:30,950 --> 02:45:28,560
absolutely did um so i

3959
02:45:32,710 --> 02:45:30,960
i kind of waited for a minute put some

3960
02:45:34,550 --> 02:45:32,720
distance in between us and then i got

3961
02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:34,560
back on the freeway and instead of doing

3962
02:45:40,309 --> 02:45:35,600
90

3963
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:40,319
i did like 75. i never saw them again

3964
02:45:43,990 --> 02:45:42,720
yeah it was trippy it was real that was

3965
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:44,000
real good

3966
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:45,760
okay question number two you're filming

3967
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:47,760
this week secret location if

3968
02:45:51,590 --> 02:45:49,920
i guess if i i have a guess about who

3969
02:45:53,110 --> 02:45:51,600
you're going to be filming with at least

3970
02:45:54,830 --> 02:45:53,120
one of the people if i guess right will

3971
02:45:58,070 --> 02:45:54,840
you confirm it

3972
02:46:03,910 --> 02:46:01,510
maybe come on now maybe i think

3973
02:46:06,710 --> 02:46:03,920
i think you're filming with lou elizondo

3974
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:06,720
nope that's one of the people

3975
02:46:13,269 --> 02:46:10,560
really no okay

3976
02:46:15,190 --> 02:46:13,279
well all right i i i hate to i hate to

3977
02:46:18,710 --> 02:46:15,200
hate to burst your bubble

3978
02:46:21,269 --> 02:46:18,720
but uh i am not filming without

3979
02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:21,279
and if lou's listening so much on the

3980
02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:22,000
air that

3981
02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:23,520
yeah blue's listening right now he's

3982
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:25,439
like good job church

3983
02:46:30,469 --> 02:46:28,560
that was believable that was good yeah

3984
02:46:31,590 --> 02:46:30,479
i don't i don't believe you but i'll go

3985
02:46:33,349 --> 02:46:31,600
along with it i'm not

3986
02:46:35,190 --> 02:46:33,359
as you like to say i'm not buying what

3987
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:35,200
you're selling i'm not i'm not

3988
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:37,760
nope not doing it but whatever you know

3989
02:46:40,389 --> 02:46:39,520
happy taping and then my third question

3990
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:40,399
real quick is

3991
02:46:44,630 --> 02:46:43,520
you posted a little cgi thing when

3992
02:46:46,070 --> 02:46:44,640
you're at the conference

3993
02:46:47,910 --> 02:46:46,080
where you were at the booth and the

3994
02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:47,920
aliens beamed down and they beamed you

3995
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:49,279
back up which is great

3996
02:46:52,469 --> 02:46:50,720
and you said that you were going to get

3997
02:46:55,429 --> 02:46:52,479
regression and talk about your

3998
02:46:58,710 --> 02:46:55,439
experience there with them

3999
02:47:01,910 --> 02:46:58,720
so through it you know that was done

4000
02:47:04,070 --> 02:47:01,920
i'm gonna uh i'm not gonna uh

4001
02:47:06,230 --> 02:47:04,080
give his last name because he wants to

4002
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:06,240
run under the radar but

4003
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:09,600
a friend of mine his name is ian

4004
02:47:15,750 --> 02:47:12,800
and uh he has

4005
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:15,760
uh he's an og fate or not been with the

4006
02:47:20,469 --> 02:47:17,600
show from the beginning

4007
02:47:22,309 --> 02:47:20,479
and and things but he doesn't post he's

4008
02:47:23,990 --> 02:47:22,319
not on social media

4009
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:24,000
and he does his own thing he's a

4010
02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:25,520
professional okay

4011
02:47:32,230 --> 02:47:28,720
so but anyway um ian

4012
02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:32,240
uh uh trying to think

4013
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:34,160
it was a couple of contact in the

4014
02:47:40,150 --> 02:47:36,640
deserts ago maybe four

4015
02:47:40,710 --> 02:47:40,160
and and he came up and and introduced

4016
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:40,720
himself

4017
02:47:44,870 --> 02:47:43,920
and we did we we hung out and uh so

4018
02:47:48,389 --> 02:47:44,880
anyway

4019
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:48,399
um he shows up in laughlin

4020
02:47:52,309 --> 02:47:51,600
and it was really funny i was standing

4021
02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:52,319
there

4022
02:47:57,590 --> 02:47:55,680
uh i think i was i think i was standing

4023
02:47:59,590 --> 02:47:57,600
there with billy

4024
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:59,600
around the lobby anyway he comes up taps

4025
02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:01,120
me on the shoulder

4026
02:48:04,790 --> 02:48:03,200
and oh it was when billy was signing his

4027
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,800
books that's that's when it happened

4028
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:06,720
anyway i hope ian is listening right now

4029
02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:07,840
and laughing

4030
02:48:10,870 --> 02:48:09,439
taps me on the shoulder and i turn

4031
02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:10,880
around dude

4032
02:48:17,429 --> 02:48:14,160
no way because we've stayed in touch

4033
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:17,439
uh via email and text and things and

4034
02:48:21,670 --> 02:48:19,200
and so we've stayed in touch but i

4035
02:48:23,670 --> 02:48:21,680
haven't seen him uh in a while anyway

4036
02:48:25,750 --> 02:48:23,680
he just shows up in laughlin and he was

4037
02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:25,760
only there for one night

4038
02:48:31,190 --> 02:48:29,200
and uh but uh he walks in

4039
02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:31,200
uh to the booth and i was standing there

4040
02:48:34,150 --> 02:48:33,040
and that's when he did that he goes okay

4041
02:48:37,269 --> 02:48:34,160
jimmy

4042
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:37,279
look up and that's what i did

4043
02:48:42,870 --> 02:48:40,640
and he was videotaping and he goes okay

4044
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:42,880
uh now walk out here i gotta shoot your

4045
02:48:50,710 --> 02:48:49,110
so i step out and he shot my legs and he

4046
02:48:51,990 --> 02:48:50,720
goes okay man i'm gonna i'm gonna show

4047
02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:52,000
you something in a few minutes

4048
02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:54,319
and he disappears and he came back with

4049
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:55,600
that video

4050
02:48:58,710 --> 02:48:57,680
and that's and he just did it like that

4051
02:49:01,429 --> 02:48:58,720
pretty cool i

4052
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:01,439
i think he did it on his cell phone i

4053
02:49:04,630 --> 02:49:02,800
don't know maybe he did it on his

4054
02:49:06,389 --> 02:49:04,640
computer i don't know but uh

4055
02:49:08,150 --> 02:49:06,399
it was very cool but you said that

4056
02:49:10,309 --> 02:49:08,160
you're going to have regression

4057
02:49:11,990 --> 02:49:10,319
do you think regression i know that you

4058
02:49:12,950 --> 02:49:12,000
don't want to partake in it but i will

4059
02:49:14,309 --> 02:49:12,960
say this

4060
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:14,319
that may be your stance at this point

4061
02:49:18,230 --> 02:49:16,000
but you haven't been to egypt yet

4062
02:49:20,230 --> 02:49:18,240
oh check it out check it out check it

4063
02:49:23,590 --> 02:49:20,240
out

4064
02:49:25,670 --> 02:49:23,600
ian just texted me

4065
02:49:26,710 --> 02:49:25,680
she says yep i'm listening i love you

4066
02:49:30,389 --> 02:49:26,720
bro

4067
02:49:32,790 --> 02:49:30,399
um you're too much and uh well

4068
02:49:33,750 --> 02:49:32,800
ian tell okay text me now since you're

4069
02:49:35,990 --> 02:49:33,760
listening

4070
02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:36,000
um did you do that on your computer or

4071
02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:38,560
did you do the video on your cell phone

4072
02:49:42,950 --> 02:49:41,680
and uh oh he says yep on my phone he is

4073
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:42,960
really listening

4074
02:49:46,469 --> 02:49:45,359
in real time wow so yeah he did that on

4075
02:49:49,750 --> 02:49:46,479
his phone

4076
02:49:51,670 --> 02:49:49,760
um but uh uh really cool really cool now

4077
02:49:54,070 --> 02:49:51,680
back to regression

4078
02:49:55,429 --> 02:49:54,080
um i'm just gonna say this ian you are

4079
02:49:58,469 --> 02:49:55,439
one of the coolest dudes

4080
02:50:00,070 --> 02:49:58,479
ever ever don't thank you ian

4081
02:50:01,670 --> 02:50:00,080
thank you ian for doing that for all of

4082
02:50:03,429 --> 02:50:01,680
us did we fade or not to love that yeah

4083
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:03,439
it was pretty cool it's pretty cool

4084
02:50:06,469 --> 02:50:05,359
um i mean i couldn't believe it plus he

4085
02:50:09,910 --> 02:50:06,479
did the van halen

4086
02:50:13,269 --> 02:50:09,920
right i mean how cool is that so um

4087
02:50:17,510 --> 02:50:13,279
but regression yeah um

4088
02:50:21,030 --> 02:50:17,520
regression uh i am

4089
02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:21,040
uh i i mean i really trust and admire

4090
02:50:24,550 --> 02:50:23,040
yvonne smith there's no question about

4091
02:50:28,150 --> 02:50:24,560
it barbara lamb

4092
02:50:32,070 --> 02:50:28,160
you know daryl sims um

4093
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:32,080
uh um kathleen martin

4094
02:50:35,990 --> 02:50:33,840
you know there are so many out there

4095
02:50:38,230 --> 02:50:36,000
that are really good at what they do and

4096
02:50:41,830 --> 02:50:38,240
they're very professional

4097
02:50:46,150 --> 02:50:41,840
that being said i

4098
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:46,160
i for me personally i don't have an

4099
02:50:50,630 --> 02:50:49,200
interest in trying to figure out

4100
02:50:52,870 --> 02:50:50,640
something

4101
02:50:54,150 --> 02:50:52,880
right i'm not there i'm not there it's

4102
02:50:57,349 --> 02:50:54,160
not like

4103
02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:57,359
um you know i was driving a car and i

4104
02:51:00,309 --> 02:50:59,520
had four hours of missing time after i

4105
02:51:03,110 --> 02:51:00,319
saw

4106
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:03,120
an object in the sky all right now if i

4107
02:51:05,910 --> 02:51:04,240
went through that

4108
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:05,920
if i went through something like what

4109
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:07,520
travis walton went through

4110
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:09,840
or or others you know betty and barney

4111
02:51:13,349 --> 02:51:10,720
hill uh

4112
02:51:13,990 --> 02:51:13,359
betty andreessen you know that have had

4113
02:51:17,429 --> 02:51:14,000
these

4114
02:51:21,429 --> 02:51:17,439
uh uh whitley strieber for instance um

4115
02:51:24,550 --> 02:51:21,439
that uh there is a need to know

4116
02:51:26,630 --> 02:51:24,560
but for me with my experiences i

4117
02:51:28,550 --> 02:51:26,640
i don't have that need to know whatever

4118
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:28,560
happened happened and i'm comf

4119
02:51:32,950 --> 02:51:30,960
comfortable with it and right and my

4120
02:51:34,790 --> 02:51:32,960
point is and we've had this conversation

4121
02:51:35,670 --> 02:51:34,800
before so what i'm proposing is you're

4122
02:51:37,510 --> 02:51:35,680
saying that now

4123
02:51:38,790 --> 02:51:37,520
but you haven't been to egypt yet and

4124
02:51:41,349 --> 02:51:38,800
what if something happens in

4125
02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:41,359
egypt where i'm just saying never say

4126
02:51:45,990 --> 02:51:43,600
never

4127
02:51:47,990 --> 02:51:46,000
ian says he's listening while drinking a

4128
02:51:51,110 --> 02:51:48,000
beer that's how cool

4129
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:51,120
ian is what kind of beer what brand okay

4130
02:51:55,510 --> 02:51:53,520
deb wants to know what kind of beer ian

4131
02:51:59,269 --> 02:51:55,520
let's see if that pops up

4132
02:52:03,510 --> 02:51:59,279
um yeah i you know and i'm very

4133
02:52:07,030 --> 02:52:03,520
uh i'm very interested on the

4134
02:52:07,429 --> 02:52:07,040
uh geography of egypt and what i mean by

4135
02:52:10,950 --> 02:52:07,439
that

4136
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:10,960
is um

4137
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:14,000
is there i i have a direct

4138
02:52:18,550 --> 02:52:16,240
connection to egypt i think about it all

4139
02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:18,560
the time i'm not sure if it's a past

4140
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:20,479
life i don't know what the interest is

4141
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:22,720
but i can't shake it and i can't get rid

4142
02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:24,640
of it and i've had it since i was a

4143
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:26,160
little little kid

4144
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:29,680
end of story so is there

4145
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:32,399
going to be an experience there like

4146
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:34,640
i've had in different locations around

4147
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:36,240
the united states

4148
02:52:41,110 --> 02:52:38,399
you know where i'm going to walk into an

4149
02:52:45,110 --> 02:52:41,120
area i'm going to walk into a temple

4150
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:45,120
and uh he says

4151
02:52:51,990 --> 02:52:48,399
fresh squeezed fresh

4152
02:52:58,309 --> 02:52:56,389
ipa oh fresh squeezed ipa

4153
02:52:59,510 --> 02:52:58,319
i guess that's an ipa it's called fresh

4154
02:53:04,550 --> 02:52:59,520
squeezed

4155
02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:04,560
okay there you go um and so

4156
02:53:11,190 --> 02:53:08,160
is there now a past

4157
02:53:14,150 --> 02:53:11,200
life regression that you're dealing with

4158
02:53:15,190 --> 02:53:14,160
as opposed to a missing time regression

4159
02:53:17,190 --> 02:53:15,200
now that's a different

4160
02:53:18,309 --> 02:53:17,200
right it's a different situation

4161
02:53:21,910 --> 02:53:18,319
altogether

4162
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:21,920
all right so uh is there a possibility

4163
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:24,800
maybe maybe see that's what i was

4164
02:53:28,790 --> 02:53:26,160
thinking because

4165
02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:28,800
when you said never and then i tweeted

4166
02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:30,160
one night and i said and by the way

4167
02:53:34,550 --> 02:53:31,680
jimmy i don't think you're seeing my

4168
02:53:36,389 --> 02:53:34,560
in the sandbox i'm just saying so give

4169
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:36,399
me a break here if i'm in jail

4170
02:53:40,469 --> 02:53:38,960
give me a break let me out okay but i

4171
02:53:41,750 --> 02:53:40,479
tweeted one time i said you said you

4172
02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:41,760
don't want regression but you haven't

4173
02:53:45,269 --> 02:53:43,600
been to egypt yet and you've always been

4174
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:45,279
so connected to egypt

4175
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:47,920
so it's like how can you save for the

4176
02:53:50,870 --> 02:53:49,600
future so i'm glad that you're at least

4177
02:53:52,630 --> 02:53:50,880
considering it

4178
02:53:54,070 --> 02:53:52,640
and it's something that might you might

4179
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:54,080
be open to eventually

4180
02:53:58,550 --> 02:53:57,040
yeah well it would depend on open that

4181
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:58,560
door

4182
02:54:03,030 --> 02:54:00,960
yeah yeah that's that's true too as well

4183
02:54:05,269 --> 02:54:03,040
you know alba weinman and

4184
02:54:06,469 --> 02:54:05,279
and going down that road uh would be

4185
02:54:09,590 --> 02:54:06,479
interesting

4186
02:54:13,510 --> 02:54:09,600
but um i have to go through egypt first

4187
02:54:16,230 --> 02:54:13,520
you know and and and see there i mean

4188
02:54:18,830 --> 02:54:16,240
i you know i've had such strange

4189
02:54:21,750 --> 02:54:18,840
experiences that were

4190
02:54:22,389 --> 02:54:21,760
um well first off personal but second

4191
02:54:25,590 --> 02:54:22,399
i'm i'm

4192
02:54:28,070 --> 02:54:25,600
convinced it's the geography it's the

4193
02:54:28,870 --> 02:54:28,080
location of the areas uh that i've been

4194
02:54:33,429 --> 02:54:28,880
in

4195
02:54:36,309 --> 02:54:33,439
have happened

4196
02:54:37,190 --> 02:54:36,319
will that happen in egypt i don't know

4197
02:54:39,349 --> 02:54:37,200
um

4198
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:39,359
i don't know i think your destiny is i

4199
02:54:43,429 --> 02:54:40,560
think your destiny

4200
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:43,439
is in egypt in in finding out um your

4201
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:45,439
connection to it i think your destiny is

4202
02:54:47,750 --> 02:54:46,160
there

4203
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:47,760
and i and i'm glad that you're

4204
02:54:51,590 --> 02:54:50,080
open-minded about it and

4205
02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:51,600
you know what's weird with an open heart

4206
02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:53,600
and mind i'll tell you what's weird

4207
02:54:59,269 --> 02:54:55,439
about me with egypt

4208
02:55:02,550 --> 02:54:59,279
um uh the pyramids are cool

4209
02:55:03,030 --> 02:55:02,560
don't feel it this great sphinx is cool

4210
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:03,040
don't

4211
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:05,920
feel it the red pyramid the ben pyramid

4212
02:55:09,269 --> 02:55:06,240
all

4213
02:55:12,309 --> 02:55:09,279
cool don't feel it um

4214
02:55:15,429 --> 02:55:12,319
it's not sakara and it's

4215
02:55:16,469 --> 02:55:15,439
not uh the giza plateau i don't feel it

4216
02:55:19,510 --> 02:55:16,479
i don't feel it

4217
02:55:22,870 --> 02:55:19,520
dendera

4218
02:55:26,070 --> 02:55:22,880
i don't feel it i don't feel it um

4219
02:55:28,469 --> 02:55:26,080
it's it's bizarre what

4220
02:55:30,070 --> 02:55:28,479
i feel the strange attraction to is a

4221
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:30,080
place that most people don't even know

4222
02:55:34,150 --> 02:55:30,560
about

4223
02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:34,160
and that's edfu so i don't know what

4224
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:36,000
what's going to happen when you know

4225
02:55:40,309 --> 02:55:37,520
it's not oswan

4226
02:55:41,349 --> 02:55:40,319
you know i i i can't explain these

4227
02:55:45,190 --> 02:55:41,359
things

4228
02:55:49,269 --> 02:55:45,200
um but uh it's it's edfu

4229
02:55:52,469 --> 02:55:49,279
that i feel this strange vibe towards

4230
02:55:55,269 --> 02:55:52,479
of all the places of all the places but

4231
02:55:56,469 --> 02:55:55,279
um uh yes i've been told that we are

4232
02:55:58,870 --> 02:55:56,479
going to edfu

4233
02:56:00,230 --> 02:55:58,880
and and i look forward to it now will

4234
02:56:02,469 --> 02:56:00,240
something crazy happen

4235
02:56:03,590 --> 02:56:02,479
uh there i don't know i don't know i

4236
02:56:09,750 --> 02:56:03,600
would like to go to

4237
02:56:10,469 --> 02:56:09,760
there are some other out i think we're

4238
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:10,479
gonna

4239
02:56:13,910 --> 02:56:12,880
go to memphis there are some outlying

4240
02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:13,920
places that

4241
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:17,520
that i would definitely uh like to get

4242
02:56:25,110 --> 02:56:18,319
to

4243
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:25,120
see you don't even know what ed foo is

4244
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:26,960
do you

4245
02:56:30,790 --> 02:56:28,880
i've heard of that so yes i've heard of

4246
02:56:32,389 --> 02:56:30,800
it i'm i'm not real familiar

4247
02:56:34,070 --> 02:56:32,399
with the position of where it's at in

4248
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:34,080
egypt and the geography of it

4249
02:56:37,349 --> 02:56:35,520
but i've definitely heard of it yeah

4250
02:56:39,429 --> 02:56:37,359
it's way too talk about it a little bit

4251
02:56:40,950 --> 02:56:39,439
why is it famous why is that particular

4252
02:56:44,309 --> 02:56:40,960
place wow

4253
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:44,319
it's a temple complex uh

4254
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:48,080
way south uh down the nile

4255
02:56:54,950 --> 02:56:51,439
up the nile i should say uh south of

4256
02:56:58,150 --> 02:56:54,960
of cairo probably

4257
02:57:00,230 --> 02:56:58,160
a couple of hundred miles and it's on

4258
02:57:03,670 --> 02:57:00,240
the west side of the nile river

4259
02:57:07,269 --> 02:57:03,680
and you can look it up it's edfu edfu

4260
02:57:10,550 --> 02:57:07,279
but what it and it's big

4261
02:57:11,190 --> 02:57:10,560
and it's probably not quite as big as

4262
02:57:14,469 --> 02:57:11,200
luxor

4263
02:57:17,990 --> 02:57:14,479
but probably almost as elegant

4264
02:57:20,950 --> 02:57:18,000
um but it has

4265
02:57:21,990 --> 02:57:20,960
it has the kings list and the dynastic

4266
02:57:25,110 --> 02:57:22,000
list

4267
02:57:25,510 --> 02:57:25,120
uh on the wall and one of the things

4268
02:57:28,710 --> 02:57:25,520
about

4269
02:57:32,630 --> 02:57:28,720
edfu um there is

4270
02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:32,640
that is the reference to atlantis

4271
02:57:35,990 --> 02:57:35,279
and the great flood um that graham

4272
02:57:39,750 --> 02:57:36,000
hancock

4273
02:57:40,870 --> 02:57:39,760
talks about so that's the only existence

4274
02:57:43,910 --> 02:57:40,880
in all of egypt

4275
02:57:45,910 --> 02:57:43,920
where this uh story is

4276
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:45,920
um so that's an ad food that's

4277
02:57:50,710 --> 02:57:47,680
interesting yeah that's interesting

4278
02:57:52,870 --> 02:57:50,720
yep well i gotta run

4279
02:57:54,870 --> 02:57:52,880
your future i know your future lies in

4280
02:57:56,469 --> 02:57:54,880
egypt jimmy there you go

4281
02:57:58,150 --> 02:57:56,479
i'm trying to talk my friend into doing

4282
02:57:59,590 --> 02:57:58,160
he traveled just about everywhere but he

4283
02:58:01,110 --> 02:57:59,600
hasn't been to egypt

4284
02:58:03,030 --> 02:58:01,120
so i'm trying to talk him into going

4285
02:58:04,309 --> 02:58:03,040
because i will not travel alone i'd like

4286
02:58:06,710 --> 02:58:04,319
to do it so that's

4287
02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:06,720
something i'm working on but i think i

4288
02:58:11,030 --> 02:58:07,920
think we'll have uh

4289
02:58:12,630 --> 02:58:11,040
everything up uh for everybody by the

4290
02:58:14,710 --> 02:58:12,640
end of next week

4291
02:58:15,990 --> 02:58:14,720
so i've i just got all the details sent

4292
02:58:18,150 --> 02:58:16,000
to me

4293
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:18,160
the dates and everything but it is march

4294
02:58:22,070 --> 02:58:20,240
uh 2022

4295
02:58:25,269 --> 02:58:22,080
and uh we're calling it the emerald

4296
02:58:27,670 --> 02:58:25,279
tablets tour and yes it's myself

4297
02:58:28,630 --> 02:58:27,680
uh johnny enoch and billy carson and

4298
02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:28,640
billy yeah

4299
02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:30,399
yep hey will jimmy have a great time

4300
02:58:32,790 --> 02:58:31,840
filming this week and tell lou i said

4301
02:58:34,630 --> 02:58:32,800
hello

4302
02:58:36,389 --> 02:58:34,640
i'll talk to you thank you so much deb

4303
02:58:38,870 --> 02:58:36,399
have a great night

4304
02:58:39,510 --> 02:58:38,880
fade to black fade to black and have a

4305
02:58:41,990 --> 02:58:39,520
great week

4306
02:58:43,510 --> 02:58:42,000
while i am gone i want to thank

4307
02:58:46,070 --> 02:58:43,520
christina gomez tonight what a great

4308
02:58:48,550 --> 02:58:46,080
conversation bright young mind

4309
02:58:50,309 --> 02:58:48,560
that was uh just uh too cool for me that

4310
02:58:51,670 --> 02:58:50,319
was an amazing conversation thank you so

4311
02:58:53,830 --> 02:58:51,680
much christina

4312
02:58:56,070 --> 02:58:53,840
all of christina's information is over

4313
02:58:58,070 --> 02:58:56,080
at jimmychurchradio.com

4314
02:59:01,110 --> 02:58:58,080
that's it i'm gone for the week i'm

4315
02:59:02,070 --> 02:59:01,120
signing off now and i will be back a

4316
02:59:04,150 --> 02:59:02,080
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a week

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